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Topic Started: March 30, 2015, 4:13 pm (39,105 Views)
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When he goaded her into exercising routines and berated her when she didn't dress up properly after she miscarried are two examples.
Oh, please is that what you're basing stuff on? hahahahah
Did she tell him hDid Holly ever try to get Robert do so stuff that she liked to do? Did she try to take him shopping? ow to dress? Did Robert ever want to spend time with Holly by getting all up in whatever she did? No, that's why it wasn't an equal relationship.
To answer a few questions

Did Holly ever try to get Robert do so stuff that she liked to do? Did she try to take him shopping?




plenty of times and he did it too...Clearly, you didn't think he wanted to hang with Celia/Grant willingly? :lol:

and I do believe they went shopping together.

And the dress question only happened during her miscarriage depression and they weren't even a pair.


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Sara Bibel ‏@deepsoap 21s21 seconds ago

So Luke is saying it's all Laura'a fault b/c she didn't want to be a criminal. No one forced him to marry her. #GH
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Sara Bibel ‏@deepsoap 21s21 seconds ago

So Luke is saying it's all Laura'a fault b/c she didn't want to be a criminal. No one forced him to marry her. #GH
I'm so sick of this..Luke was the one who wanted out of that life why the hell did he have to go on the run to begin with because he couldn't go through with the hit on Mitch Willams and knew FS would have him killed..He didn't have the stomach for it and longed for a normal life just like Bobbie did and was the desperate one to want to marry Laura. growl:
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I finally watched the anniversary episode, after putting it off for a while because I dreaded the subject matter and the hack writing in general.



It started out bad but got somewhat better as it went along.



The good:



- As many already said, the casting for young Luke and Patricia. They did a wonderful job with such hyperdramatic material and they were believable young versions of Tony Geary and Dee Wallace. Geary isn't an easy actor to emulate but the guy who played him did it just right. He also made Bill Eckert seem like another character and not just Luke with slicked back hair.



- The hospital homage. I like that Jason/Becky/Ryan didn't go overboard in trying to imitate the original actors, and that there were no winks and nods and cutesiness. This worked out much better than I had expected.



- Laura Wright made a real impression in her handful of scenes, convincing me of Lena's struggle as the perfect wife who was never going to be perfect enough for her husband, a woman who was terrified of her husband and for her children. Jackie Zeman and Jane Elliott gave strong supporting performances (although I thought Jane was a little off with Luke at the end). Dee Wallace was also wonderful in what could have just been a check-cashing throwaway role for her.



- Aside from a few too many overwrought closeups, Luke watching his past unfold was a stronger narrative choice than I'd expected. The makeup/hair and camera work on the recreated flashback of Bill Eckert was surprisingly seamless.



The "didn't agree with this choice but it could have been worse":



- I don't think they made the right decision casting Geary as the Spencer father. It was too much of Geary doing Geary - bellowing, hamming. Only from the time they learned of Lena's death did I think Geary began to start acting and put in a respectable effort.



The bad:



- Terrible, obvious dialogue.



From Lena's "Who do you think you are? Mary Tyler Moore?" (domestic violence is always a good segueway for more pop culture cutesiness) to the father immediately launching into interchangeable racial slurs just in case we wouldn't know that he was a bad man, to a young Luke shouting, "You destroyed us!" like a 12-year old writing his first fanfic, the words in their mouths threw me out of scenes time and time again.



The low point was when Lulu, after learning that her grandfather had beaten his wife and all of his children, said, chirpily as ever, "He was a hateful man!" Yes, Lulu. Let's dismiss years of abuse as if he flipped somebody off while taking their parking space.



- Misogyny abounds.



While Luke (accidentally) killed Lena, Pat gets the narrative blame, because she kept pushing and pushing her father, even as her mother begged her to stay in line. Pat was also the one who was effectively "punished" for her actions, being a prisoner of her own body via MS even as Luke has lived the life of a king. It's unfortunate that the message of these scenes was that if you stand up to your father's racism and sexism and violence, then your mother will pay with her life. It's even more unfortunate that the show compounded this by giving Pat a mixed-race daughter whose sole purpose is to be demeaned and villainized in favor of Barbie princess Lulu.



- Ham wailing.



Luke's weeping and wailing at the fireplace about how HE DID THIS was reminiscent of no-budget theater work that SCTV used to skewer. Put Joe Flaherty in a wig and see the difference (although Joe Flaherty is a better actor). Geary and Ron are not a good mix.



All in all I'd give it a B or a B-, which is pretty good by modern GH standards. I can't help wondering what might have been with a qualified writing and producing team, but it is what it is.
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Did Robert really tell Holly that she wasn't as much help as she thought she was? LMAO!
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Did Robert really tell Holly that she wasn't as much help as she thought she was? LMAO!
Did Anna really wear a fake scar on her face for 7 years? LMAO.
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Michael Logan ‏@TVGMLogan 6m6 minutes ago

I can count on 3 fingers how many unhappy soap stars in this biz praise their HW when they don't mean it. The rest choose stone cold silence
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Michael Logan ‏@TVGMLogan 6m6 minutes ago

I can count on 3 fingers how many unhappy soap stars in this biz praise their HW when they don't mean it. The rest choose stone cold silence
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;phew WTF. I guess he's off the Cartini reservation.
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Did Robert really tell Holly that she wasn't as much help as she thought she was? LMAO!
Did Anna really wear a fake scar on her face for 7 years? LMAO.
Why bring Anna into this?
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Michael Logan ‏@TVGMLogan 6m6 minutes ago

I can count on 3 fingers how many unhappy soap stars in this biz praise their HW when they don't mean it. The rest choose stone cold silence
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Who are the three?
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