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Topic Started: March 30, 2015, 4:13 pm (39,087 Views)
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April 17, 2015, 4:04 pm
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I think writing plays a bigger part than many people want to admit.
Darnell and Debbi had the best modern era supercouple writing ANY supercouple, on any soap, ever got. AMC writers did them very good. As a result their chem was as good, if not better, than ever.
R&A got really good material on NS2.
L&L got amazing material in the 90s and in 2006.
D&A. R&H. S&B. F&F. None of these couples got great writing, or strong story support, in a very longtime. I want someone to name one well written, hell even decently written, supercouple/major couple reunion on a soap that failed because the actors just lost their chemistry.
Because all the ones I can think of coincidentally coincide with bad or just plain non-existent writing.
So like if somebody tells me they just didn't see the chem between L&L during their 1993 reunion than yeah, it just didn't work for them anymore because that story was very well done and the actors worked hard to sell the love and chemistry.
But if you tell me that Luke and Laura 20 years later in 2013 don't have it, I'm going to ask "based off what"?
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April 17, 2015, 4:05 pm
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I think writing plays a bigger part than many people want to admit.
Darnell and Debbi had the best modern era supercouple writing ANY supercouple, on any soap, ever got. AMC writers did them very good. As a result their chem was as good, if not better, than ever.
R&A got really good material on NS2.
L&L got amazing material in the 90s and in 2006.
D&A. R&H. S&B. F&F. None of these couples got great writing, or strong story support, in a very longtime.
Robert and Anna had me in tears on NS2. They were so beautiful and compelling. I can honestly say that's when I became a fan. They were awesome together. After the 2006 debacle, save those very short scenes alone with Robin, I gave up. But NS2, brought me back
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April 17, 2015, 4:09 pm
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I used to loved DnA and liked R&A too BUT now I lean more toward Anna and Robert.. DnA has lost all their appeal to me. Blame RC.
Nothing can ever change my love for my couples and will alway's want them together..R&H+ F&F+ D&A and even L&L no matter what they do to try and ruin them... I'll never give up and stop rooting for them!!!
I root for chemistry. If the actors still have it, or can generate it, I'm there. I about gave up on L&L until Genie's last two weeks on the show when I finally saw the sparkle again.
Thats exactly how I felt. The last couple of episodes of GFs last return, BAM... there was that L&L chemistry. Thats how I felt with R/A during the Robin rescue as well as R/H for those very few scenes in 2012. No chemistry, than Im not on board. Thats how I see D/A. IMO, there is nothing there but scene partner interaction in all of their scenes the last 2 years. WORD.
I would bet my last buck, that the way Duke/Anna interact now is probably the same way Fin/Ian interact in real life. I don't want to see Fin/Ian when we're suppose to be seeing DnA. real Life has ruined my once fav couple, which is why I lean more toward R&A now.
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April 17, 2015, 4:13 pm
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I think writing plays a bigger part than many people want to admit.
Darnell and Debbi had the best modern era supercouple writing ANY supercouple, on any soap, ever got. AMC writers did them very good. As a result their chem was as good, if not better, than ever.
R&A got really good material on NS2.
L&L got amazing material in the 90s and in 2006.
D&A. R&H. S&B. F&F. None of these couples got great writing, or strong story support, in a very longtime.
Robert and Anna had me in tears on NS2. They were so beautiful and compelling. I can honestly say that's when I became a fan. Lets be honest here. Darnell and Debbi acting their ASSES off. They were completely behind selling Angie and Jesse like nobody in the history of ever loved each other that much. They sold that love story even more than they did in the 80s, when Jangie were a supercouple, but not in the same league of Cliff/Nina or Greg/Jenny.
Tony Geary and Genie Francis sold the hell out of Luke and Laura's love in 1993 and again in 2006. They lived up to their legendary chemistry and worked hard to show that connection from their very first scenes in each of those years.
Tristan and Finola did the same with NS2. In fact they sold a deeper, more mature love on NS2 than they did in the 90s on GH.\
I didn't see that same effort in the acting with Tristan and Emma. Or Tony during L&L's last 2 times onscreen together. I see Ian and Fin only putting in effort when D&A are in conflict, otherwise they play D&A just like Audrey and Steve.
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April 17, 2015, 4:16 pm
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When it comes to Tony and Genie the only times I feel their chemistry is challenged is when Tony works to NOT connect with Genie's Laura. But when he opens himself up, it's all still there.
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April 17, 2015, 4:20 pm
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I root for chemistry. If the actors still have it, or can generate it, I'm there. I about gave up on L&L until Genie's last two weeks on the show when I finally saw the sparkle again.
Thats exactly how I felt. The last couple of episodes of GFs last return, BAM... there was that L&L chemistry. Thats how I felt with R/A during the Robin rescue as well as R/H for those very few scenes in 2012. No chemistry, than Im not on board. Thats how I see D/A. IMO, there is nothing there but scene partner interaction in all of their scenes the last 2 years.
WORD. I would bet my last buck, that the way Duke/Anna interact now is probably the same way Fin/Ian interact in real life. I don't want to see Fin/Ian when we're suppose to be seeing DnA. real Life has ruined my once fav couple, which is why I lean more toward R&A now. I wouldn't have much issue with how Fin and Ian play things if they had stayed on the show consistently for 25 years and were this show's senior couple. I have no problem with married couples aging into a sweet, comfortable spot like Lila/Edward or Steve/Audrey, if they earned it.
D&A didn't earn it. They had decades to make up for and fraught obstacles. But as soon as they got back together both Ian and Finola played it too comfortable. There was so much more tension there between Anna and Faison-Duke. Ian and Fin have an easy rapport that does show up onscreen, but it's not the right rapport for a major REUNION. They played it like their had been together non-stop for years, like those sweet old, comfy married couples we had on the show way back when.
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April 17, 2015, 4:32 pm
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Thats exactly how I felt. The last couple of episodes of GFs last return, BAM... there was that L&L chemistry. Thats how I felt with R/A during the Robin rescue as well as R/H for those very few scenes in 2012. No chemistry, than Im not on board. Thats how I see D/A. IMO, there is nothing there but scene partner interaction in all of their scenes the last 2 years.
WORD. I would bet my last buck, that the way Duke/Anna interact now is probably the same way Fin/Ian interact in real life. I don't want to see Fin/Ian when we're suppose to be seeing DnA. real Life has ruined my once fav couple, which is why I lean more toward R&A now.
I wouldn't have much issue with how Fin and Ian play things if they had stayed on the show consistently for 25 years and were this show's senior couple. I have no problem with married couples aging into a sweet, comfortable spot like Lila/Edward or Steve/Audrey, if they earned it. D&A didn't earn it. They had decades to make up for and fraught obstacles. But as soon as they got back together both Ian and Finola played it too comfortable. There was so much more tension there between Anna and Faison-Duke. Ian and Fin have an easy rapport that does show up onscreen, but it's not the right rapport for a major REUNION. They played it like their had been together non-stop for years, like those sweet old, comfy married couples we had on the show way back when. They had to do what the script told them to do, it's not like they were writing the story. Face it RC gave them nothing but silly fluff scenes like the pickle/chew/teach me twitter scene at Kellys and that horrid Duke in a tutu that I found embarrassing for IanB but other found laughably charming. Once RC was done with Faison/Duke, he didn't know what to do with just Duke. It's this not knowing or caring which is the reason for his now decided to write him completely off.
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April 17, 2015, 4:40 pm
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WORD. I would bet my last buck, that the way Duke/Anna interact now is probably the same way Fin/Ian interact in real life. I don't want to see Fin/Ian when we're suppose to be seeing DnA. real Life has ruined my once fav couple, which is why I lean more toward R&A now.
I wouldn't have much issue with how Fin and Ian play things if they had stayed on the show consistently for 25 years and were this show's senior couple. I have no problem with married couples aging into a sweet, comfortable spot like Lila/Edward or Steve/Audrey, if they earned it. D&A didn't earn it. They had decades to make up for and fraught obstacles. But as soon as they got back together both Ian and Finola played it too comfortable. There was so much more tension there between Anna and Faison-Duke. Ian and Fin have an easy rapport that does show up onscreen, but it's not the right rapport for a major REUNION. They played it like their had been together non-stop for years, like those sweet old, comfy married couples we had on the show way back when.
They had to do what the script told them to do, it's not like they were writing the story. Face it RC gave them nothing but silly fluff scenes like the pickle/chew/teach me twitter scene at Kellys and that horrid Duke in a tutu that I found embarrassing for IanB but other found laughably charming. Once RC was done with Faison/Duke, he didn't know what to do with just Duke. It's this not knowing or caring which is the reason for his now decided to write him completely off. WORD! RC just doesn't care about the old vets and couples and that's the bottom line for me..He showed no effort on giving D&A any thing real and infact pulled a guza on Duke with the ooc writing.. Shameful!
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April 17, 2015, 4:52 pm
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I wouldn't have much issue with how Fin and Ian play things if they had stayed on the show consistently for 25 years and were this show's senior couple. I have no problem with married couples aging into a sweet, comfortable spot like Lila/Edward or Steve/Audrey, if they earned it. D&A didn't earn it. They had decades to make up for and fraught obstacles. But as soon as they got back together both Ian and Finola played it too comfortable. There was so much more tension there between Anna and Faison-Duke. Ian and Fin have an easy rapport that does show up onscreen, but it's not the right rapport for a major REUNION. They played it like their had been together non-stop for years, like those sweet old, comfy married couples we had on the show way back when.
They had to do what the script told them to do, it's not like they were writing the story. Face it RC gave them nothing but silly fluff scenes like the pickle/chew/teach me twitter scene at Kellys and that horrid Duke in a tutu that I found embarrassing for IanB but other found laughably charming. Once RC was done with Faison/Duke, he didn't know what to do with just Duke. It's this not knowing or caring which is the reason for his now decided to write him completely off.
WORD! RC just doesn't care about the old vets and couples and that's the bottom line for me..He showed no effort on giving D&A any thing real and infact pulled a guza on Duke with the ooc writing.. Shameful! I'm sorry, I do agree their material was scarce. But even the material created to show some sexuality/chemistry was delivered flat and awkward. Im sorry, but IB is a one-note actor. He plays the emotionally charged scenes the same way he plays scenes talking about Twitter. The only time I have ever seen a difference (very minutely and not convincingly) was the Anna/Duke office confrontation. it was a different take from IB, but I still don't think it was good. He was better at playing sinister. He has a talent for playing that type of role very convincingly. When he first came back as Faison, it was excellent. It was a subtle menacing portrayal that he elevated as the audience came to know who he really was.
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April 17, 2015, 5:16 pm
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I think writing plays a bigger part than many people want to admit.
Darnell and Debbi had the best modern era supercouple writing ANY supercouple, on any soap, ever got. AMC writers did them very good. As a result their chem was as good, if not better, than ever.
R&A got really good material on NS2.
L&L got amazing material in the 90s and in 2006.
D&A. R&H. S&B. F&F. None of these couples got great writing, or strong story support, in a very longtime. F&F got good writing in the 90's.
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