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Topic Started: March 30, 2015, 4:13 pm (39,222 Views)
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April 2, 2015, 3:50 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
And that's probably what's went down with Ian B now. People thinking he suppose to stick around because Finola is around isn't accurate.
Eh, that's a lot of assuming. IB's recurring status was open ended until now. I don't know that that's true for the others you lumped in.
I think the problem is that D/A didn't work out, so they don't see any real need for Duke anymore, especially if they're putting Anna with somebody else. I think RC saw a story related way to write him out and then went for it. Personally, I think that's why Ian has been let go....for now I agree. I'd just like confirmation that FH is staying.
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April 2, 2015, 3:51 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
He did bring TR back even after he wasn't so kind about his first return under them.
Tristan was brought back a few times. twice in 2012 and then in 2013 And each times Robert was written better than before. I rated 2012 and gave it a B+ only because they had him get over taken by Dr. O, which I thought was completely unbelievable esp after they show him throw her half way across the room which clearly showed how much stronger he was over her. Robert returned in 2013 got a A instead of A+ only because Robert and Anna were wasted for 3 wks off screen and they didn't get to have any scenes with Sean and not enough Scorpios family moment with the whole fam.
With those types of appearance, like with TR, ES, AH and JW, it seems they budget how much they can spend for the return, translate that into episode counts and then contract with them for the agreed upon amount/appearances. So basically RC has x number of episodes he can work with and crafts the story around that to an extent. Its a sucky way to have to do things, and thats why it translates into a disjointed mess or an abrupt ending. Its the same thing with the other recurring vets too. Each block of episodes they are in are part of a "contract" agreement for a given timeframe. So thats why they disappear sometimes for weeks until they are needed for story again. Wow! Nice to see a fan with some understanding
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April 2, 2015, 3:52 pm
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To those following Finola's movie is it for sure that the movie will be filmed in April?
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April 2, 2015, 4:00 pm
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To those following Finola's movie is it for sure that the movie will be filmed in April? No moved to sometime in May
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April 2, 2015, 4:03 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
Tristan was brought back a few times. twice in 2012 and then in 2013 And each times Robert was written better than before. I rated 2012 and gave it a B+ only because they had him get over taken by Dr. O, which I thought was completely unbelievable esp after they show him throw her half way across the room which clearly showed how much stronger he was over her. Robert returned in 2013 got a A instead of A+ only because Robert and Anna were wasted for 3 wks off screen and they didn't get to have any scenes with Sean and not enough Scorpios family moment with the whole fam.
With those types of appearance, like with TR, ES, AH and JW, it seems they budget how much they can spend for the return, translate that into episode counts and then contract with them for the agreed upon amount/appearances. So basically RC has x number of episodes he can work with and crafts the story around that to an extent. Its a sucky way to have to do things, and thats why it translates into a disjointed mess or an abrupt ending. Its the same thing with the other recurring vets too. Each block of episodes they are in are part of a "contract" agreement for a given timeframe. So thats why they disappear sometimes for weeks until they are needed for story again.
Wow! Nice to see a fan with some understanding Actually I think if you KNOW you have them for X of episodes as the OP says, you should be able to plan for and craft a more cohesive story.
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April 2, 2015, 4:16 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
With those types of appearance, like with TR, ES, AH and JW, it seems they budget how much they can spend for the return, translate that into episode counts and then contract with them for the agreed upon amount/appearances. So basically RC has x number of episodes he can work with and crafts the story around that to an extent. Its a sucky way to have to do things, and thats why it translates into a disjointed mess or an abrupt ending. Its the same thing with the other recurring vets too. Each block of episodes they are in are part of a "contract" agreement for a given timeframe. So thats why they disappear sometimes for weeks until they are needed for story again.
Wow! Nice to see a fan with some understanding
Actually I think if you KNOW you have them for X of episodes as the OP says, you should be able to plan for and craft a more cohesive story. Completely agree, but when you have so many players, as in the Robin rescue story, appearances had to be spaced out. That whole story arc lasted 3+ months.
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April 2, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
And that's probably what's went down with Ian B now. People thinking he suppose to stick around because Finola is around isn't accurate.
Eh, that's a lot of assuming. IB's recurring status was open ended until now. I don't know that that's true for the others you lumped in.
I think it is open ended for actors like IB, LH, KS and JZ whose characters are weaved into story here and there when needed. Its open-ended because they are available. I don't think IB's status changed, he is still recurring and could be brought back at any time as with the others. Each time he appears, its part of a contracted block of episodes. Thats how it works. Its the only way to guarantee they will finish a story arc/set of appearances that have already been scripted. The only difference this time, is that people like ML know what the story is and assume its the end of the character. IB could even think its the end because he doesn't know otherwise either. FH's status has no bearing on any recurring actors. When TR left abruptly and signed with YR last year, RC had drafted a story outline, possibly breakdowns but FV had not secured him yet. So it was wasted. That is the risk they have with recurring players. Same thing just happened with WK thank you, this is what I've said happened with TR/GH. Everybody was calling RC a liar and I defended him to the end because I knew what was true. I knew RC had big plans for Robert Scorpio for Feb sweep and going forward. RC had hope to keep TR around for awhile during his visit but because FV didn't secure him, everything fell through.
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April 2, 2015, 6:28 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
Eh, that's a lot of assuming. IB's recurring status was open ended until now. I don't know that that's true for the others you lumped in.
I think it is open ended for actors like IB, LH, KS and JZ whose characters are weaved into story here and there when needed. Its open-ended because they are available. I don't think IB's status changed, he is still recurring and could be brought back at any time as with the others. Each time he appears, its part of a contracted block of episodes. Thats how it works. Its the only way to guarantee they will finish a story arc/set of appearances that have already been scripted. The only difference this time, is that people like ML know what the story is and assume its the end of the character. IB could even think its the end because he doesn't know otherwise either. FH's status has no bearing on any recurring actors. When TR left abruptly and signed with YR last year, RC had drafted a story outline, possibly breakdowns but FV had not secured him yet. So it was wasted. That is the risk they have with recurring players. Same thing just happened with WK
thank you, this is what I've said happened with TR/GH. Everybody was calling RC a liar and I defended him to the end because I knew what was true. I knew RC had big plans for Robert Scorpio for Feb sweep and going forward. RC had hope to keep TR around for awhile during his visit but because FV didn't secure him, everything fell through. But "big" plans for a vet means 3 episodes max, IMO.
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April 2, 2015, 6:36 pm
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The original post stated Duke fans were asking nonDuke fans to help save Duke. Thats the whole point of the subsequent posts, exactly what you just said. WTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do NOWHERE is anyone blaming IB fans for anything. Just stating don't expect fans of all the other characters to jump on board thats all. Nobody is angry. All of it is P&L anyway
I did say WTH is going to campaign for others ..you are right ..but if thats what they ask and some comply so be it .it doesn't hurt to ask..I think anyfan base would be happy to get support from other fanbases if they were in the same situation.
NOP I'm a R&Hfanfirst who was pissed that RC didn't bring ES back when TR was on and double pissed when they sent Robert off to Holly as obligation to her. I wanted to start a campaign, nothing loud or obnoxious but something just to keep R&H on RC's mind. I couldn't get any help from the R&H on the net and was even told by some I should be grateful! WTF! So I said screw that, and started my own small campaign through snail mails/emails/post cards it's nothing fancy but it should keep R&H on fv mind ..I just wish some R&Hers who are quick to help with certain campaign would kindly drop emails/snailmails to the studio for R&H too. That's a lovely idea but I'm burned out from sending letters. I'm a fan of all the old school supercouples. I love Laura, Duke, Holly, Robert, Frisco, Felicia.....and Luke and Anna. But TPTB don't seem to listen. I'm just tired of begging for crumbs. And even if we do get them back, RC just doesn't have it in him to write a well-thought out storyline for any of them - save Luke.
But good for everyone else not giving up hope.
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April 2, 2015, 6:54 pm
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepWTH, is going to campaign for to save a character they may not be a fan of..thats on their fans to do His fans have pretty much burnt that bridge.
I think it is open ended for actors like IB, LH, KS and JZ whose characters are weaved into story here and there when needed. Its open-ended because they are available. I don't think IB's status changed, he is still recurring and could be brought back at any time as with the others. Each time he appears, its part of a contracted block of episodes. Thats how it works. Its the only way to guarantee they will finish a story arc/set of appearances that have already been scripted. The only difference this time, is that people like ML know what the story is and assume its the end of the character. IB could even think its the end because he doesn't know otherwise either. FH's status has no bearing on any recurring actors. When TR left abruptly and signed with YR last year, RC had drafted a story outline, possibly breakdowns but FV had not secured him yet. So it was wasted. That is the risk they have with recurring players. Same thing just happened with WK
thank you, this is what I've said happened with TR/GH. Everybody was calling RC a liar and I defended him to the end because I knew what was true. I knew RC had big plans for Robert Scorpio for Feb sweep and going forward. RC had hope to keep TR around for awhile during his visit but because FV didn't secure him, everything fell through.
But "big" plans for a vet means 3 episodes max, IMO. Correct but big plans for vets that specifically get brought back for RC's key story stick around. How much airtime dis Ian B got when he was playing Fuke? LOTS! It's when that story ended and they brought back Duke is when they didn't have a clue what to do with him and that's because Duke wasn't part of RC's original plan.
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