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Topic Started: April 20, 2015, 1:46 pm (10,139 Views)
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April 21, 2015, 1:25 pm
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And she did the same for him. She called him out on his stubbornness, his unforgiving nature and his constant (and at times annoying) one track mind when it came to right and wrong. Their constant battles on that front were very often very dramatic scenes. I agree, if the match ups can continually sustain that push and pull that i am all in. Like with S&B, they were dysfunctional but had that spark that kept them interesting. Thats how I feel about L&L and R&A as well. I never found R&H boring, I don't know why that is (they were the exception for happily married couples IMO), but D&A, IMO didn't have that and definitely don't now.
You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with. I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together.
PS. I don't have Anna only edits but having Robert's edits give me lots of Anna because they were always together., there's very few Anna scenes left for me to buy. Early D/A and the Laurelton story is all I need to have to have all Anna stuff from the 80s buying Robert's gave me lots of AD.. lol PSS I have all Robert/Holly story, too. lol
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April 21, 2015, 1:27 pm
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Pining is only looked down on in this thread when criticizing a character you don't like.
When Frisco came back pining for Felicia there wasn't a single post accusing him of being weak or pathetic. Not one.
When Luke woke Laura up in 2006 and said part of him had been waiting for her and later said he couldn't live with out her, none of their fans thought that was weak.
If Robert was brought back and rewritten to have been pining for Holly since her "death" not one of their fans would be calling Robert weak.
Pining, IMO, is not the fault of the character that is the object of the pining. But on that note: Luke pining for Laura waiting for her to wake up, I wouldn't consider weak Robert was pining for Holly in 86 because she died, but I wouldn't consider him weak Anna pining for Robert because she totally trashed the relationship while having his child, I wouldn't consider weak Duke pining for Anna for 23 years while in a Turkish prison, I would also not consider weak On the other hand, Holly pining for Luke supposedly all these years and getting pregnant intentionally to try and keep him while pretending to be dead and still married to another man, is the definition of weak. I hated this with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns
it is weak and i can admit that as a Holly fan, but i think Anna and tracy are weak and blind when it comes to men too Anna and Tracy, definitely have shown weakness when it comes to the men in their lives. Its just, IMO, who has tried to make them better. Tracy, Has never been made better by any man she has been involved with (poor thing). Anna, IMO had Robert. Duke nor David, made her better, the weakened her. Holly, did have Luke in the very beginning (oil scam), but luckily Robert took over and I believe Holly made Robert better as well, just as in later years Anna made Robert better and Laura made Luke better.
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April 21, 2015, 1:32 pm
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Tracy emasculate Luke especially the weak simpering mental Luke we have now.
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April 21, 2015, 1:34 pm
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I feel like Robert calls her on her shit. Whether they're together, or not, it doesn't even matter. He spent more time building her up than tearing her down, and expects her to live up to standards even when she falls. I think they're good for each other in that way. But again, this isn't about ships for me. I think Jax is way better for Brenda than Sonny, but they bore me and I'd much rather watch the dysfunctional S&B merrygoround.
And she did the same for him. She called him out on his stubbornness, his unforgiving nature and his constant (and at times annoying) one track mind when it came to right and wrong. Their constant battles on that front were very often very dramatic scenes. I agree, if the match ups can continually sustain that push and pull that i am all in. Like with S&B, they were dysfunctional but had that spark that kept them interesting. Thats how I feel about L&L and R&A as well. I never found R&H boring, I don't know why that is (they were the exception for happily married couples IMO), but D&A, IMO didn't have that and definitely don't now.
You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with. I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together. I think you hit the nail on the head. Robert and Holly were part of everything during those years and the same can be said for Robert and Anna in the subsequent years, even though they were not romantically involved until the last year. With Duke, he has always been all about Anna, and the mob. His story, was one story: Anna and the mob and that conflict. One and done. Like it is now.
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April 21, 2015, 1:36 pm
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Tracy emasculate Luke especially the weak simpering mental Luke we have now. I think Luke has emasculated himself. This whole Fluke thing, is not Tracy's fault and is definitely not Laura's fault. He killed his parents, repressed it all and became a mental case. Thats Luke's fault, nobody else's
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April 21, 2015, 1:36 pm
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Both Luke/Laura are way too fragile and they needs strong romantic interest. Sad to say, L&L are way too weak for each other. Tracy is the right woman for Luke in the here and now. Hopefully, Laura get her a good man for her and not that psych Stefan, somebody that's decent like what Luke has with Tracy. Say what you will about Tracy but she does have Luke's back.
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April 21, 2015, 1:44 pm
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Both Luke/Laura are way too fragile and they needs strong romantic interest. Sad to say, L&L are way too weak for each other. Tracy is the right woman for Luke in the here and now. Hopefully, Laura get her a good man for her and not that psych Stefan, somebody that's decent like what Luke has with Tracy. Say what you will about Tracy but she does have Luke's back. I tend to agree, but I do think Tracy lets Luke get away with too much, but she always has his back. So you can say she is almost an enabler for his bad behavior, unless he completely goes off the rails, like now. She tries her best to keep him from being completely unredeemable. Laura tried to make him better, but Luke wouldn't allow it and didn't want it.
The bottomline is that Luke doesn't want to be a better person and Tracy is ok with that.
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April 21, 2015, 2:04 pm
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I adores Anna and Faison, absolutely loved all their scenes but I liked it more when Anna was sticking it to Faison and not him getting to her. I admit I hated any sense where she crying over him because it's not healthy and the last thing i ever want is for Anna to be label as mental as L&L. They're in a pretty sad, sad state of affair.
I think L&L (and maybe S&B) are the only supercouple where each person is basically incomplete without the other. They fall apart while not together. Their souls just aren't intact and healthy. They're better off together than not. "They fall apart while not together. Their souls just aren't intact and healthy."That actually sound really AWFUL to me. By real world criteria? Maybe.
But I don't watch soaps to see whose the perfect match by real world standards. I watch for chemistry, drama, and excitement. Those make interesting couples to me more often than not.
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April 21, 2015, 2:07 pm
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I feel like Robert calls her on her shit. Whether they're together, or not, it doesn't even matter. He spent more time building her up than tearing her down, and expects her to live up to standards even when she falls. I think they're good for each other in that way. But again, this isn't about ships for me. I think Jax is way better for Brenda than Sonny, but they bore me and I'd much rather watch the dysfunctional S&B merrygoround.
And she did the same for him. She called him out on his stubbornness, his unforgiving nature and his constant (and at times annoying) one track mind when it came to right and wrong. Their constant battles on that front were very often very dramatic scenes. I agree, if the match ups can continually sustain that push and pull that i am all in. Like with S&B, they were dysfunctional but had that spark that kept them interesting. Thats how I feel about L&L and R&A as well. I never found R&H boring, I don't know why that is (they were the exception for happily married couples IMO), but D&A, IMO didn't have that and definitely don't now.
You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with. I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together. I thought Robert was an absolute bore with everyone except Luke and Anna.
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April 21, 2015, 2:11 pm
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I think L&L (and maybe S&B) are the only supercouple where each person is basically incomplete without the other. They fall apart while not together. Their souls just aren't intact and healthy. They're better off together than not. "They fall apart while not together. Their souls just aren't intact and healthy."That actually sound really AWFUL to me.
By real world criteria? Maybe. But I don't watch soaps to see whose the perfect match by real world standards. I watch for chemistry, drama, and excitement. Those make interesting couples to me more often than not. It is possible to have chemistry, drama, and excitement without co-dependency. Too much dysfunction is too much for me. Enough of THAT in the real world.
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