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Topic Started: April 20, 2015, 1:46 pm (10,138 Views)
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lol they were fun.One of my fav stories was the whole Aln/Lucy/Sotty/Tracy stuff everyone was blackmailing and backstabbing each other.So much better than the mob crap they do now lol.
Did you like Scotty with Dominique?
yeah I liked the whole Dominquie dies of cancer story it was something differnt for scotty lol.I think characters need differnt stories every once in awhile the reason I feel like sonny,Liz ect are so redundant they've had the same stories it feels like forever.
I agree, the CANCER story was extremely strong. Probably Scotty's best, outside of maybe his long connection with Lucy.

My issue with Scotty/Dominique is that they've rewritten her as his soulmate, the love of his life. Dominique was a failed character who didn't get any significance until she was given cancer and used to make us more sympathetic to Scotty. She was not some great, epic love and they did not have that kind of love story. They just had an ending worthy of that kind of love story, and because Kin killed it in the acting department. But prior to the cancer Scotty/Dominque were not much different than Bobbie/Roy or Katherine/Mac.
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JameyG give GH tough love. LOL

http://daytimeconfidential.com/2015/04/20/cbs-soaps-spike-in-nielsens-gh-needs-tough-love
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Pining is only looked down on in this thread when criticizing a character you don't like.

When Frisco came back pining for Felicia there wasn't a single post accusing him of being weak or pathetic. Not one.

When Luke woke Laura up in 2006 and said part of him had been waiting for her and later said he couldn't live with out her, none of their fans thought that was weak.

If Robert was brought back and rewritten to have been pining for Holly since her "death" not one of their fans would be calling Robert weak.
Pining, IMO, is not the fault of the character that is the object of the pining. But on that note:

Luke pining for Laura waiting for her to wake up, I wouldn't consider weak
Robert was pining for Holly in 86 because she died, but I wouldn't consider him weak
Anna pining for Robert because she totally trashed the relationship while having his child, I wouldn't consider weak
Duke pining for Anna for 23 years while in a Turkish prison, I would also not consider weak

On the other hand, Holly pining for Luke supposedly all these years and getting pregnant intentionally to try and keep him while pretending to be dead and still married to another man, is the definition of weak. I hated this with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns
it is weak and i can admit that as a Holly fan, but i think Anna and tracy are weak and blind when it comes to men too
Anna and Tracy, definitely have shown weakness when it comes to the men in their lives. Its just, IMO, who has tried to make them better. Tracy, Has never been made better by any man she has been involved with (poor thing). Anna, IMO had Robert. Duke nor David, made her better, the weakened her.
Holly, did have Luke in the very beginning (oil scam), but luckily Robert took over and I believe Holly made Robert better as well, just as in later years Anna made Robert better and Laura made Luke better.

I don't think Tracy has been made better by any man, nor has she made any man better.


But she's tried really, really, really hard with Luke. I commend that. The issue with that is that Laura did such an amazing job at improving Luke, or rather Luke improving himself because he loved her so much, that everything Tracy tries to do just pales in comparison.
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And she did the same for him. She called him out on his stubbornness, his unforgiving nature and his constant (and at times annoying) one track mind when it came to right and wrong. Their constant battles on that front were very often very dramatic scenes. I agree, if the match ups can continually sustain that push and pull that i am all in. Like with S&B, they were dysfunctional but had that spark that kept them interesting. Thats how I feel about L&L and R&A as well. I never found R&H boring, I don't know why that is (they were the exception for happily married couples IMO), but D&A, IMO didn't have that and definitely don't now.
You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with.

I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together.
I thought Robert was an absolute bore with everyone except Luke and Anna.
Really? I never found Robert to be boring at all. From his first mysterious appearance, he had me intrigued. And when I found out that he was 007? I was gone. lol
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Both Luke/Laura are way too fragile and they needs strong romantic interest. Sad to say, L&L are way too weak for each other. Tracy is the right woman for Luke in the here and now. Hopefully, Laura get her a good man for her and not that psych Stefan, somebody that's decent like what Luke has with Tracy. Say what you will about Tracy but she does have Luke's back.
How would you know if Laura is right for Luke today? Like TG said in an interview not that long ago, the writers haven't bothered to invest in Laura in such a long time that we have no idea how they'd fit in a modern context.

What I do know is that Luke was a vastly better character when Laura was around, and TG plays romance far, far better with Genie than he does with Jane. The most romantic Luke/Tracy scenes don't remotely hold a candle to Luke/Laura ones, even the later ones.
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You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with.

I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together.
I thought Robert was an absolute bore with everyone except Luke and Anna.
Really? I never found Robert to be boring at all. From his first mysterious appearance, he had me intrigued. And when I found out that he was 007? I was gone. lol
Let me clarify that.

I find all Robert's significant romantic entanglements an absolute bore except Anna. I only threw Luke in there because their epic bromance is better than most soap romances. :lolz
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And she did the same for him. She called him out on his stubbornness, his unforgiving nature and his constant (and at times annoying) one track mind when it came to right and wrong. Their constant battles on that front were very often very dramatic scenes. I agree, if the match ups can continually sustain that push and pull that i am all in. Like with S&B, they were dysfunctional but had that spark that kept them interesting. Thats how I feel about L&L and R&A as well. I never found R&H boring, I don't know why that is (they were the exception for happily married couples IMO), but D&A, IMO didn't have that and definitely don't now.
You probably didn't find R&H boring because they were always in the middle of something. It kind of hard to get boring when you're constantly in the thick of the action and that's Robert to a T and whoever he's romantically with.

I mentioned here or somewhere of having bought Robert's edits and he was used everywhere and so was his love interest. Holly/Robert was part of everything. Robert was a true leading man and you could tell from watching the old shows. I think that's the different with Duke/Anna, Duke was only used in his own life and that could be like you're in a boring bubble. however, Anna was used widely like Robert and they usually always ended up together.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Robert and Holly were part of everything during those years and the same can be said for Robert and Anna in the subsequent years, even though they were not romantically involved until the last year. With Duke, he has always been all about Anna, and the mob. His story, was one story: Anna and the mob and that conflict. One and done. Like it is now.
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I thought Robert was an absolute bore with everyone except Luke and Anna.
Really? I never found Robert to be boring at all. From his first mysterious appearance, he had me intrigued. And when I found out that he was 007? I was gone. lol
Let me clarify that.

I find all Robert's significant romantic entanglements an absolute bore except Anna. I only threw Luke in there because their epic bromance is better than most soap romances. :lolz
I liked Robert with Jackie and Anna. Maybe because she was bitter but I thought they had heat and explosive just like R/A.
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2nd time in 2 weeks. I still don't think he goes far enough. Their main problem is that only newbies nobody cares about are getting most of the screen time and people are tuning out because of it. Nina, Franco, Ava, Silas, Jake, Hayden. Add to this the Fluke story that basically has been a bust and this is what happens. The writing is terrible. He hits the nail on the head though. Stop the PP/stunt writing and start investing in character development
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Really? I never found Robert to be boring at all. From his first mysterious appearance, he had me intrigued. And when I found out that he was 007? I was gone. lol
Let me clarify that.

I find all Robert's significant romantic entanglements an absolute bore except Anna. I only threw Luke in there because their epic bromance is better than most soap romances. :lolz
I liked Robert with Jackie and Anna. Maybe because she was bitter but I thought they had heat and explosive just like R/A.
I thought this were a great Jackie/Robert scene. And this could've easily been Robert/Anna. You don't think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C6X9hJHoQ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJLBlQejwA
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