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Topic Started: April 20, 2015, 1:46 pm (10,125 Views)
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Holly wasn't like no damn Nancy Drew. Give me a break LOL!


R&H had Hart to Hart like potential, but they ruined it by making Holly a busybody housewife.
Ruined it how? Holly and Robert were a cross between Hart to Hart/Nick and Nora Charles and both the women were house wives. They solved many mysteries together as a husban/wife team.

BUT ITA, She never was a Nancy Drew to me, I never even got that vibe while watching them, Holly like Nora and Jennifer was only interested in the mystery/muders because it kept her/them close with their husbands and they were a team.
I think, considering the times, the were like Hart to Hart. Both were extremely popular at the same time, the early 80's. I was so hooked on both.
Me too. I couldn't get enough and we clearly didn't get enough of them together as the couple either, they were stretched so thin especially Robert when he was everywhere.
Me three. My boyfriend at the time thought both Jennifer from Hart to Hart and Holly from GH were HOT! LOL! And of course both Robert Scorpio and Jonathan Hart personified cool. Both couples were fantastic!
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April 22, 2015, 1:44 pm
While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
She was playing a role at that point, she was a not so good character, so clearly they weren't going to keep her like and they didn't because as soon as she started falling in love with Luke? Which was approximately 2 or 3 wks after? The person with a conscious EMERGED and wanted to go against her family.
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April 22, 2015, 1:44 pm
While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
When was this? Holly wasn't a female that could stand on her own then either because Luke was doing everything for her and before that all the men in her family was leading her around..When was it was a time that Holly cold survive w/o man in her earlier days? She went from Luke to Robert in a heart beat.
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April 22, 2015, 1:44 pm
While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
Who? The con artist who used her body to trap her mark and then quickly fell in love with him? Is that who you wanted to see?
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While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
When was this? Holly wasn't a female that could stand on her own then either because Luke was doing everything for her and before that all the men in her family was leading her around..When was it was a time that Holly cold survive w/o man in her earlier days? She went from Luke to Robert in a heart beat.

OK, try rereading my post again, this time more clearly.

I did not say Holly was a stand alone character at the beginning. I said "I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH."


"If" is called a qualifier. It means that had the prerequisite happened, in this case had they continued writing Holly along those lines, then eventually she'd have been a stronger character who didn't need a romance to survive on the show. That means I don't believe she was, but potentially could have been. Is that clearer?
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While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
When was this? Holly wasn't a female that could stand on her own then either because Luke was doing everything for her and before that all the men in her family was leading her around..When was it was a time that Holly cold survive w/o man in her earlier days? She went from Luke to Robert in a heart beat.

OK, try rereading my post again, this time more clearly.

I did not say Holly was a stand alone character at the beginning. I said "I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH."


"If" is called a qualifier. It means that had the prerequisite happened, in this case had they continued writing Holly along those lines, then eventually she'd have been a stronger character who didn't need a romance to survive on the show. That means I don't believe she was, but potentially could have been. Is that clearer?
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April 22, 2015, 1:44 pm
While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
Who? The con artist who used her body to trap her mark and then quickly fell in love with him? Is that who you wanted to see?
Not the OP but I think that was a heck of a lot more interesting than the do nothing housewife who spent her days wanting to do police work she was unqualified for.

I found Holly shockingly old fashioned of a character on a show run by a woman, with strong, independent women like Monica, Bobbie, Lesley and hell even teenager Laura had jobs.
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While I liked Holly with Robert, romantically speaking, I much preferred the take on the character when she first arrived and was with Luke. I think if they'd kept writing her along those lines she'd have become the kind of character that Tracy, Alexis or Carly became, the kind that didn't need a man to survive on GH.

I think Holly's biggest downfall is that she essentially only exists in the GH fabric largely as a love interest. Nobody's really invested in making her a strong, stand alone character at all, which has really hurt the ability to bring her back for her own sake.
Who? The con artist who used her body to trap her mark and then quickly fell in love with him? Is that who you wanted to see?
Not the OP but I think that was a heck of a lot more interesting than the do nothing housewife who spent her days wanting to do police work she was unqualified for.

I found Holly shockingly old fashioned of a character on a show run by a woman, with strong, independent women like Monica, Bobbie, Lesley and hell even teenager Laura had jobs.
Never understood why they never gave Holly anything on her own to do? Even with Luke after the oil scam ended, it was Luke making all arrangement for their lives and Holly was just the tagalong girl friend. What was her goals? ambitious?
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April 22, 2015, 12:31 am
Oh please. Holly was enticing because she was played by a huge boobed hair model who looked like a porcelain doll. She's still gorgeous, even in middle age. That's the only reason she was enticing. It wasn't acting or the outdated, sexist writing for her, that's for sure.
She is beautiful, no doubt, but the rest of your assessment not so much. I still think she was written more like Nancy Drew amatuer detective who loved adventure and mysteries. Other people tried to protect her etc...but she wanted to help solve or solve cases and she did.
NOP but interesting that you compare her to Nancy Drew. My favorite tv version of Nancy Drew was played by Pamela Sue Martin who ES went on to replace as Fallon on Dynasty. While ES more or less ruined Fallon for me, I thought PMS was wonderful in both roles, full of rebellious spunk and adventurous spirit. I just can't imagine ES as Nancy Drew at all and probably the PSM connection has something to do with it.
I don't think ES could have played Nancy Drew, but I thought Holly had the same spirit of adventure and determination. and when the HEYDAY was, doesn't matter. They seemed to have kept nancy drew up with the times and I don't know a thing about the 30s version and wasn't making the comparsion to that time period.

PSM left Nancy Drew in the middle of season 2 and her recast on that sucked too. PSM seemed to like to leave shows. It was disappointing.
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Oh please. Holly was enticing because she was played by a huge boobed hair model who looked like a porcelain doll. She's still gorgeous, even in middle age. That's the only reason she was enticing. It wasn't acting or the outdated, sexist writing for her, that's for sure.
She is beautiful, no doubt, but the rest of your assessment not so much. I still think she was written more like Nancy Drew amatuer detective who loved adventure and mysteries. Other people tried to protect her etc...but she wanted to help solve or solve cases and she did.
And Nancy Drew's heyday was in the 30s-50s. So that only proves my point.


I would have preferred if Holly had been written more like a Lois Lane, especially Margot Kidder's.
I think Jackie was suppose to be like Lois Lane. Holly was originally written as a tough character when she met Luke on the island, but the character changed cause of how Emma played it.
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