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I think the fact that this is even an argument proves the point somebody was making a few pages ago. A lot of the people making negative claims about Mac Scorpio's place on the show during the 1990s really didn't watch most of the show. Even the ones now arguing that he might have had high counts but low airtime obviously did not watch.

Mac was on a ton, used a ton, and was one of the most seen characters on GH back then.

It's not so much that nobody watched, it's just that few (apart from Mac fans understandably) remember his stuff so how much investment could there have been really.
Many of the people who post in the Vet/Old Times section will admit that they didn't even watch GH after Anna, Holly and Robert were all gone.

Let me ask you this, how much in depth story can the posters here remember about Jax, Sonny, Ned, or Carly's stories from the 90s or later?

How many people here can recount the intimate details of Timora? Tin Man? The battle for ELQ? The story with Jax and V? Jason and Robin's romance?
It was lots of characters/storylines in the 80s and early 90s that I couldn't tell you a damn about, or give any update indepth or any of that and I watched GH religiously(meaning every single day & wished away my weekend for Monday to get here again) Jax? Brenda? Carly? weren't favorite of mine maybe they were yours by they weren't mine so why would some of us care about them?


Because somebody made a point that if everything isn't remember in depth by everyone, it means it wasn't memorable and wasn't that major.

Which is foolishness, of course.
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Well there's a story that few remember, I've not seen that referenced in all the years I've been reading soap boards. I'll have to look that up.
Most people will just remember it as the time Mac got an evil twin.

For those who missed a lot of the 90s after the adventure crew left, yeah Mac was on a lot. Most of his stories involved being the good guy who rescued damsels in distress. That plus his romance with Felicia and his fatherly role, soaked up most of Mac's airtime. That's how Mac ended up as the police commissioner, from his good guy days.

After Mac lost Felicia to Luke Guza and subsequent headwriters pretty much knocked him further and further down on the food chain. Tony, Mac, Alan, Monica, Felicia, and Bobbie all started to get phased into the background within a couple years of each other.

Basically it was when Jill Phelps arrived.
Luke(TG), Ugh is the bane of every characters existence on this show. I was so mad when TR left that they forced ES and TG together again (which was a major fail). I really thought JJY and ES had really good chemistry and I think could have been good.
I would of welcome holly with anyone but Bill that lame attempt at L&H 2 was so horrible . :yuk
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Mac failed in the "Frisco position". Failed. No head writer was ever interested in writing for him ever again.


This was the point of contention.

Did Mac "fail" in the Frisco position? Yes.

Was it true that no headwriter was "ever interested in writing for him ever again"? No

A 10+ page debate over jack shit. Welcome to DD.

I think it's debatable whether or not any head writer was interested in writing for the Mac Scorpio character. Just depends on what you mean by "writing for" I guess.

In relative terms, I think the character has always gotten the short end of the stick.

Did you watch almost all of the GH years after 1992?
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You can always tell who didn't watch when.

To say Mac wasn't written for in the 90s shows who didn't watch most of the 90s.

It's the same thing when people who obviously didn't watch the 80s swear the whole decade was nothing but camp and cheesy sci-fi/adventure stuff.

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Most people will just remember it as the time Mac got an evil twin.

For those who missed a lot of the 90s after the adventure crew left, yeah Mac was on a lot. Most of his stories involved being the good guy who rescued damsels in distress. That plus his romance with Felicia and his fatherly role, soaked up most of Mac's airtime. That's how Mac ended up as the police commissioner, from his good guy days.

After Mac lost Felicia to Luke Guza and subsequent headwriters pretty much knocked him further and further down on the food chain. Tony, Mac, Alan, Monica, Felicia, and Bobbie all started to get phased into the background within a couple years of each other.

Basically it was when Jill Phelps arrived.
Luke(TG), Ugh is the bane of every characters existence on this show. I was so mad when TR left that they forced ES and TG together again (which was a major fail). I really thought JJY and ES had really good chemistry and I think could have been good.

Luke was the bane of EVERY character's existence? Really? :eek
Hyperbole on my part definitely and I apologize. Its just, for this character a lot of vets that carried the show for years when he was gone, were sacrificed at that alter then and definitely recently Its just that, people seem to forget that Luke left in 1982/83, returned in 1984 for the Aztec treasure story and didn't return until 1993. The show was number #1 for the entire decade (until 1989) without him.
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You can always tell who didn't watch when.

To say Mac wasn't written for in the 90s shows who didn't watch most of the 90s.

It's the same thing when people who obviously didn't watch the 80s swear the whole decade was nothing but camp and cheesy sci-fi/adventure stuff.

Definitely, but that doesn't change the fact that Mac has been supporting since he was first introduced. Writing FOR and writing In are 2 different things. I view writing FOR as a character-centric story and writing IN as a peripheral player that adds and fits to the overall story.
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This too is incorrect.

The Mac/James Meadow story, written by Guza of all people, was a Mac centric story.
And that was the most stupid forgettable story I ever witness and I watch that ridiculous shit. That was no difference Fake Faison but only without the mask and that Fake story was better written. Mac was held by the lady (her name escaped me) and Jimmy was someone she work with who happened to looks exactly like dufus Mac but only Jimmy was a real dufus.

I didn't like that story either.

But it disproves those who said that Mac didn't lead any stories after his introduction. He was in the lead in a couple of stories and the James Meadows one was all Mac. It was the last Mac-lead story actually. The last major story Mac did was the quad with Luke, Laura and Felicia.
He would've had a unforgettable story if they hadn't kicked him out the Faison's story and made it all about Luke and Felicia. Because the story start it off really strong between Mac and Faison, Mac was angry and wanting to go after Faison and I was really into it but then Mac was kicked out..Those fools had Faison kidnapped Felicia to get to Luke? WTF, how idiotic was that? On screen it was said numerous times that Faison always got under Robert's skin or got him off his thinking game when he went after Anna, so Faison was doing the same to Luke by going after Felicia? Seriously that story should've been a Mac and Felicia story if any writer was interested in using Mac..Here Mac is face to face with the guy he suspected killed his bro and sis in law, threatened his niece and now tormenting his wife and they took him out of the story until the very end,. Very telling.
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Let me jump in here.

Mac was no lead. But I did watch all of GH back in the 90's and I can definitely say he wasn't background dressing. I get that some people in here hate Mac Scorpio, I'm no big fan myself, but I don't think it does any good to lie and mislead about characters airtimes.

Jumping in also. I don't have any strong feelings about Mac. I watched most of the 90s and yes he was there and I didn't mind him but that's about all I remember.

Somebody up in another post said posters were discounting supporting characters and I don't think that's true. It's just that nobody really comes in here to talk about Mac and his stories.

Another poster even said he'd be remembered fondly and he will be. But in general terms as an affable citizen, loving uncle, Maxie's main enabler, etc., and that's all true. But nobody has really been able to be specific in showing how writers were interested in the character which was one of the original points, that the writers weren't much interested in him after the initial push.

nop, but someone a few posts back listed a bunch of stories Mac was a part of, including uncovering of psycho Ryan- which he did have a significant part in. So, there ya go.
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You can always tell who didn't watch when.

To say Mac wasn't written for in the 90s shows who didn't watch most of the 90s.

It's the same thing when people who obviously didn't watch the 80s swear the whole decade was nothing but camp and cheesy sci-fi/adventure stuff.

Definitely, but that doesn't change the fact that Mac has been supporting since he was first introduced. Writing FOR and writing In are 2 different things. I view writing FOR as a character-centric story and writing IN as a peripheral player that adds and fits to the overall story.
If that's the definition than Laura Spencer hasn't been a lead since 1981.
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Let me jump in here.

Mac was no lead. But I did watch all of GH back in the 90's and I can definitely say he wasn't background dressing. I get that some people in here hate Mac Scorpio, I'm no big fan myself, but I don't think it does any good to lie and mislead about characters airtimes.

Jumping in also. I don't have any strong feelings about Mac. I watched most of the 90s and yes he was there and I didn't mind him but that's about all I remember.

Somebody up in another post said posters were discounting supporting characters and I don't think that's true. It's just that nobody really comes in here to talk about Mac and his stories.

Another poster even said he'd be remembered fondly and he will be. But in general terms as an affable citizen, loving uncle, Maxie's main enabler, etc., and that's all true. But nobody has really been able to be specific in showing how writers were interested in the character which was one of the original points, that the writers weren't much interested in him after the initial push.

nop, but someone a few posts back listed a bunch of stories Mac was a part of, including uncovering of psycho Ryan- which he did have a significant part in. So, there ya go.

Mac was significantly involved in a number of front burner stories. He was a major player, just not THE player. He wasn't that different than Sean was in the 80s actually.
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