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What We're Doing Next; Yeah, you heard me.
Topic Started: Feb 18 2011, 11:41 PM (1,482 Views)
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So I've pulled together most of the character and setting concepts in http://s4.zetaboards.com/Adoratroll/topic/8426431 and most of the story ideas in http://s4.zetaboards.com/Adoratroll/topic/8426647.
With that out of the way, what should we do now, being completely new to this kind of thing?

What's our goal? Do we want to go ahead and try and structure together an "introduction chapter" or something like that with storyboard, concept art, the works?
Or should we boil some concrete overarching details of coherency and pacing out of this scattered mess first before we take it to the next level like that?

Where should we do it? Is everyone committed enough to check the forum regularly or should we move it to something with more momentum like an IRC channel or our own imageboard?

We should probably consider whether or not we want to keep making threads on /a/ as long as people seem generally interested, too.

In short, what do we---and you---want out of this?
Edited by Dec, Feb 18 2011, 11:45 PM.
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Well, I say we start with some character sheets that are made up all pretty for now... with descriptions and the whole lot, and translate them to moonrunes if we can manage.
While our drawfags are on the project of creating pro-level character sheets, we get our writefags to bang out like a dozen 4koma one-shots to get started.
If we have any gaping flaws, those will show up during the 4koma writing process. Fix that up then and there, at which point we come back and decide as a group if we want to go for a full manga or just keep it light.

To be honest I think this could make a great finished manga, but I don't know if everyone's willing to go that route.
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Sounds good. I'm up for it. I'm something of a moonruner myself, so no need to worry about that part.
I'm willing to write, so I'll try and get that process underway along with anyone else who'd like to collaborate.

If any drawfags are willing to try their hand at character sheets, I'll go ahead create a hub topic for that and then perhaps a topic for each character once that becomes necessary.
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I'm willing to give it a shot, but we'd be better off making a thread for each character's design to be hammered out. Requesting a forum section for hammertime... then from there we can use each topic to truly finalize the design, and then we can make a last topic to get the sheets done.

Also, as another thought--we need to actually get a roster of people working on this done, so we know who's doing what and who to credit for what... Will make everything easier when we know who's who. A roster topic somewhere?
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Feb 19 2011, 12:06 AM
I'm willing to give it a shot, but we'd be better off making a thread for each character's design to be hammered out. Requesting a forum section for hammertime... then from there we can use each topic to truly finalize the design, and then we can make a last topic to get the sheets done.

Also, as another thought--we need to actually get a roster of people working on this done, so we know who's doing what and who to credit for what... Will make everything easier when we know who's who. A roster topic somewhere?
Well, it seems like a roster thread would be somewhat futile unless we get some response here, no?
But sure, I was making one anyway as it were. Haha.
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I say we build a storyboard and finalize character designs and personalities before doing anything else. We should probably get a vague idea of how much time passes from beginning to end as well, because then we'll know how many chapters/episodes/volumes/seasons/etc. to make and how deep to go characterization-wise.
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Alright, so what I'll do is make a character design finalization thread for our three main characters so far. We'll discuss the personalities and the final details of their visual designs before BDM breaks for the weekend to draw, then?
At the same time, I'll make a preliminary storyboarding thread where we'll get down some rough ideas for the first few pieces and work out basic pacing and such.

We can get going with the couple of us left, really---we'll find some worthy help somewhere down the road once we hammer out some tangible products to show for our troubles, no matter how long it takes.
Edited by Dec, Feb 19 2011, 12:39 AM.
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Well it's saturday now (at least in my timezone) so I think we may be out of time with respects to nailing down designs before the weekend.
I think we can trust BDM to compile the stuff we've come up with so far and make it cute, then we can do our final group critiques and tweaks after.
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Dec
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Sounds good.
I'll definitely try to think through how the early pacing might work with what precious little free time I've got this weekend, throwing up any and all ensuing thoughts on character design as they come, and then we'll butt heads again next week.
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Monday then.
I-it's not like it's a date or anything!

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Got the email.
I'm not too good at drawing but I can try a shot at some designs or something tomorrow?
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Certainly, by all means. This early into the game, you're encouraged to post anything you'd like if it works well with what we've got.
Not like we've got much to work with yet, haha.
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Not a drawbro but a writefag here. Though my character ideas were more popular than I expected. I am fully in for this.
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Alexia, the individual threads with the character names have our initial things done. If I have it right, we're working on the main characters right now before we add any new ones... so seeing your own ideas, tweaks and interpretations of our three main characters would likely be the most helpful.
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Damascus here, I sort of jump started all this hubbub and I'm still on board. I think our first main steps should be character sheets and 4koma/random storyboarding like most everyone else is suggesting. I think we should absolutely have some inofficial or non-canon material to test the waters before we really start on something serious.

I wouldn't mind getting interest by a thread on /a/ every so often. But, we should also limit the scope on what kind of new ideas we want to look at, if you get what I mean.
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Alright, what can those of us with no drawing skills work on while the drawfags are working on pumping out finalized versions of the characters?

I'm willing to organize a definite list of stuff that needs to be known and designed for the series to get a successful launch (such as character sheets and contained info, clothing, info about school, etc). Y'all help me figure out all the stuff that needs to be planned, and I'll make a thread in a nice concise format, making sure to label the stuff that is still undecided.
Edited by Damascus, Feb 20 2011, 05:51 PM.
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Well, we still need to get a definite roster of our people. Who's onboard with the project for serious, and who's just here to observe or toss the odd idea. When we have our core staff set and sorted, then we can worry about getting the actual project started.
Also, we might want a group name too... even if it's just a placeholder. Pretty Cool Guy productions or something.
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Good idea. I'm definitely here for serious as writer. I'll ask around through PMs and shoutbox to avoid clogging up the boards too much.

Also, since the original person that mentioned the basic plot was doing it sarcastically, d-do I get to be "creator?" I-it's not that I'm trying to be greedy or anything... But I f-feel like it's something that needs to be addressed...
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Production name... Gosh I have no ideas. Some kind of inside joke that isn't already being used in the actual production.
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No need to try to grab credit. Everyone will get their fair share. Nobody's going to bogart ya.
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I actually had to look up the definition of bogart.

Anywho, I'll start putting up the roster. We've got me for sure as writer, you, Dec, and likely Poppet. Any specific title in mind?
Edited by Damascus, Feb 20 2011, 06:56 PM.
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Well Dec and I have been serving as project heads. I've been sort of playing team mom while Dec keeps everything together with sage wisdom. Yakkun is prettymuch our head drawerer by sheer awesome skill and having a draw style that suits the project.
I also draw (poorly) and write (poorly)... I don't know what kind of roster we should use exactly. Maybe just writes/draws/leads and organization and let those of us who qualify land in more than one list? Best I can think of anyway.
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I don't want to alarm anyone, but this is worth a read.

http://katawashoujo.blogspot.com/2009/05/long-history-of-katawa-shoujo.html

The history of KS alarmingly mirrors a lot of the same events that have taken place in just the last week of Troll-tan. If this can serve as any example, hard roads ahead, but we must soldier on.
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