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| some | Jul 21 2012, 09:25 AM Post #51 |
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hey whats your login on reddit |
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| some | Jul 21 2012, 10:31 AM Post #52 |
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Also classic dream teams of favourite players through history : List favourite players throughout history, can be as old as Zarra, in between like Milla, Cantona etc and recent legendary players Zidane etc. Formation: 4-2-3-1 GK: Canizares (Valencia) D: Roberto Carlos (Real Madrid), Maldini (Milan), Beckenbauer (Bayern Munich), Cafu (Milan) DM: Frank Rijkaard (Milan), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid) AM: Vicente (Valencia), Juninho (Lyon), Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) ST: Ronaldo (Real Madrid) Might not be the best team in history but has my favourite players ever in it. ![]() |
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| NYKnicks | Jul 21 2012, 11:33 AM Post #53 |
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In my opinion, its truly not even close. The 92 team is so far better. The only advantage the 2012 team has are their wing players, maybe. 92 Guards: Michael Jordan, John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Clyde Drexler. Jordan is the best defensive Guard of all time, and Stockton (I'm 99% sure) holds the record for most steals all time, he wasn't very athletic but he could move quick and had good speed. Magic was at the very end of his career, so he wasn't nearly as fast as his prime, but he had average speed for a guard. That wouldn't be impressive, but since he is a 6'9 Point Guard drastically changes everything defensively. Imagine Amare Stoudemire or Tim Duncan with average PG speed, they would be ridiculous on the perimeter. Clyde was more of an offensive player, but I will get to that. Now offensively Jordan is arguably the best offensive player ever. Imagine Kobe in his prime, and now add PG passing ability, and slashing to the rim like no one else. Kobe is so great because of his finesse in his shot and around the rim. Lebron is so great because he is freakishly strong and physical. Jordan had both of those attributes in his game. No one on the 2012 team could guard Jordan, besides maybe LeBron, but Lebron is playing SF, PF and C in these Olympic games due to lack of size. Stockton holds the record for most assists all time, his scoring ability isn't that great, but his passing ability is one of a kind. Imagine Steve Nash but faster and smarter. Magic was ancient at this point like I said, so he couldnt score 15-20 a game like his prime, but an old guy can still pass, look at Nash, Kidd for example. He in my opinion is the best passer ever, and he made an average guy on a team great, simply because of how smart and crafty he was. Clyde is just a flat out scorer and was very athletic with a good 3 shot. I just realized how long this is so I will try to make everything else shorter. 92 team Forwards: Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, Chris Mullen. Scottie Pippen is arguably the best defensive player ever. I personally think so, but like i said Its arguable. If Pippen wasn't with Jordan during his prime, i think he could average around 23 ppg, 8 rpg and 7 rpg. People over look his offense due to his defense. Karl Malone is one of the best scorers ever and one of the best on this team. Not to mention him and John Stockton are the best big guy little guy duo ever. Malone is also one of the strongest players ever, and i would say strongest on 92 team and 2012. Larry Bird was at the end of his career also and wasn't much of an isolation guy at this point. Great shooter and passer, but that's about it. Charles was the leading scorer on the 92 team. Undersized PF but one of the greatest rebounders ever. As tough and intimidating as they come. Mullin was there purely for shooting. 92 Centers: Patrick Ewing and David Robinson. Ewing is a great great offensive center and also very strong and pitbull like. He had great post moves and a decent 17 foot shot. David Robinson is Dwight Howard but better offensive skills. He was just as athletic and about as good defensively. His rebounding ability was terrific, going head to head with Duncan. Both of them averaged over 10 rebounds a season. This all isn't gonna be read anyway, and I imagine you know the current Olympic roster pretty well so i will describe them as a whole. Guards: Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Russell Westbrook, James Harden Kobe is no longer in his prime, but still a great offensive player and better than average defensive player. Him and Jordan would be guarding each other most of the time, so you have a prime Jordan vs an Old but still good Kobe. Jordan wins in every way besides shooting. Chris Paul is a great passer and good defensive player, but he is only 6'0 tall. Magic would give him such a hard time offensively. Magic, Stockton, Pippen, and Jordan were very good at predicting passing lanes and just good at guarding them in general. DWill and Westbrook are two strong PGs and might give Stockton a problem, but the inside defense of the 92 team can stop them in the paint, which is relevant because Williams and Westbrook score most of their points in the paint. James Harden is one of the worst players on an Olympic team since pros could join. Terrible asset to the team. Forwards: Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Andre Iguodala. Lebron is great at everything, don't want to go to into him. Durant is a great scorer. Very George Gervin like. Carmelo is also a great scorer, and Iggy is only their for his defense. Okay, so Durant and Carmelo are great scorers, but average defenders, that wouldn't be a problem, but Carmelo is playing one position bigger at PF, and Durant is going back and forth between SF and PF, and is very weak. So at SF they are average, at PF they are bad defenders. Durant and Carmelo could not ever guard Charles and Malone in the paint, two of the strongest and most aggressive players ever. Scottie could stop everyone on the team so their offense suddenly becomes average any time Scottie is guarding them. Centers: Tyson Chandler, Kevin Love. Chandler is the only center on the team, and is a good defender. Terrible on offense. Can't create his own shot at all. Kevin Love is a PF. They're making him play Center because of the lack of size on the team. Love is a great shooter, but a catch and shoot type. Can't create his own shot. Everyone on the 92 team could guard him. Every PF and C I mean TL;DR The main reason 2012 would lose is because they are so undersized. They have 1 center and 1 PF. That one PF is playing center so no power forwards. So far, Lebron has played SF, PF and C. Carmelo so far, SF, PF, C. Durant so far SF and PF. There is literally no line up that 2012 uses where there isn't at least 1 player out of position. Literally. So 2012 is constantly uncomfortable, while 92 has the best player ever, 2 of the best defenders ever, 2 of the best passers ever, 2 of the best rebounders ever, 2 of the best scorers ever, all who never need to play out of position. SO 92 WINS CUZ UV SIZE 118-97 |
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| NYKnicks | Jul 21 2012, 11:38 AM Post #54 |
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That being said, USA is going to destroy everyone this year. I want them to go back to only college kids so it will be fair for other countries. |
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| Zach | Jul 21 2012, 04:06 PM Post #55 |
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Yes but you could easily argue that if size was the advantage, then the Lakers should have smashed not only the Thunder in the playoffs but everyone else. Granted the 92 big were MUCH better than the Lakers big men but the game has adapted around that. And then the Heat go and smash the Thunder which just shows how much match ups aren't always what they seem. But speed vs strength will always be an argument I guess Now here is what I'm wondering. Would you rather have a team of all-stars play for our country or send the reigning champions to play. Minus the foreign players if any are there. Just because they would already have chemistry, know each others roles on the team, etc. Again it would be much different with Wade and Bosh out right now but I feel like it could be an argument Also I will never support college kids playing again. The USA must show its dominance day in and day out because being fair doesn't matter |
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| NYKnicks | Jul 21 2012, 06:30 PM Post #56 |
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Well, I think the reason LA lost to OKC is because of Pau. He was playing so softly and so "We are the best, I don't have to play real until the finals"-y. That is why Kobe had a 40+ game with barely any assists, and other games with really high point totals but few assists. Bynum was great in some games, and just bleh in some others. In my opinion anyway. From a fan point of view, out of those two options i would rather the all stars play. But it is a very interesting concept to make the NBA champions play for the World Championship, i wouldn't hate that. Yeah, I dont know. Even with the college kids I feel the USA would dominate most games. Don't get me wrong I want USA to win every time, but this year there is no reason to even watch games other than vs. Spain, vs. Brazil, vs. Argentina and vs. Lithuania, because any other game is without question going to be a blow out. Vs. Spain Brazil Argentina or Lithuania might be close. EDIT: and France That's another thing about 92, they won every game by at least 25 points, and I think their average margin of victory was by 45 points. They were truly dominant and I would say the best team ever put together in sports history. Personally I think the 2008 team is better than 2012, due to no Dwight, Wade, Rose, Bosh, Aldridge and due to having Harden. Edited by NYKnicks, Jul 21 2012, 06:35 PM.
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| Zach | Jul 26 2012, 06:53 PM Post #57 |
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I may change my opinion after this last game against Spain but I want to see the actual games first. The big men were pitiful against Gasol and Ibaka I really wish Blake would have been ok to play. There would have been sooo many highlights with him and CP3 in. And of course if Dwyane could play with LeBron as well |
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| NYKnicks | Jul 27 2012, 07:04 PM Post #58 |
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Yeah i know, Blake would have been nice. Idk how much you are following the rest of the worlds teams, but who do you think will come in 2nd and 3rd ? I say Gold USA Silver Spain Bronze I'm mixed between France/Argentina/Lithuania |
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| Zach | Jul 28 2012, 03:16 PM Post #59 |
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I think the same thing. I hope France get third at least just so Tony Parker can have a medal |
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| some | Jun 23 2013, 06:01 AM Post #60 |
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Another season over, so soccer fans lets post our team of the season! Formation: 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 GK: Neuer (Bayern Munich) DEF: Ivanovic (Chelsea), Thiago Silva (PSG), Hummels (Dortmund), Cole (Chelsea) DEF MID: Gundogan (Dortmund), Vidal (Juventus) ATT MID: Ribery (Bayern Munich), Juan Mata (Chelsea), Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) ST: Edinson Cavani (Napoli) |
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