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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 08:41 PM Post #161 |
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Your opinion is valid...but lets move on from grudges and see who wants to be in the I18. |
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| Raz | May 28 2011, 08:42 PM Post #162 |
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Mostly, that there's no point in having it if it isn't IC |
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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 08:45 PM Post #163 |
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I beg to differ. But we have already been through the advantages of these groups (see below), most people seem happy, and it is IC so, as I said ealrier, lets keep going as we have been doing; IC and with the I9 as it has been decided. (As for suggestions these G groups are pointless I beg to differ; I think they will be an important decision body in Alterra. It is commonly known that small groups provide a much better decision making environment, intimate discussion can actually happen, and people are more willing to reverse their opinions. These G groups should help the international community get down to some serious business. More over these bodies will provide a much needed environment to FORM drafts for the AA. At the moment it is hard to get any feedback for ideas you have, because in the AA any suggestion is just overwhelmed by OOC and IC comments as to whether they agree idealistically with the proposition.) Edited by Leraq, May 28 2011, 08:46 PM.
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| Skye Rocket | May 28 2011, 08:46 PM Post #164 |
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If this were being proposed as some kind of AA official body I'd agree with Raz and some of the other dissents. However with the IC background that it is a Laddneian initiative I really don't see how it's fundamentally different from any of our other supernational alliances. |
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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 08:49 PM Post #165 |
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Whatever your opinion of these groups and how exactly to classify them it doesn't matter: they will be very useful so lets keep persevering through the swamp of posts to an outcome... I also think your allegation of 'a Laddneian initative' are founded, but membership has been very open, whatever Raz said, look at the final outcome. He has taken into account everyones opinions and has changed his original list. Skye it will be different from a normal alliance because this group will be solely to suggest propositions to the AA and not be based on any ties or realtions. It is definitely not an alliance, and will be better than that for suggesting bills for the AA because it represents the whole world and is soley dedicated to this cause, it will be better because that is what its designed to do!
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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 08:55 PM Post #166 |
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Addition: Anyway, would you really want to drop this after +1000 views and 20 pages: obviously Raz isnt happy but thats no reason to just let this whole initative be wasted. Someone was always going to get upset! :-P, moreover hes going to be at the high end of the 18 so I dont see his problem
Edited by Leraq, May 28 2011, 08:57 PM.
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| Raz | May 28 2011, 08:59 PM Post #167 |
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Aside from one question that was establishing what Vantel would be in the I groupings, I haven't talked one inch about my nation, I'm worried because this is a frightening mix of an OOC popularity contest and a IC Uberpower block. |
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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 09:00 PM Post #168 |
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It is an uberpower block: but that is exactly what it's meant to be! Ladd's moderation was always meant to take out that OOC populairty contest, and it has to a great extent, but no matter what way we do this OOC popularity will always slip in a bit. Its not perfect but its the best were going to get. Please people lets forge ahead with the 18, leave the 9 be and accept these summits are a good thing! Edited by Leraq, May 28 2011, 09:08 PM.
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| Raz | May 28 2011, 09:09 PM Post #169 |
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I'm afraid of what this block may devolve to |
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| Leraq | May 28 2011, 09:10 PM Post #170 |
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Dont worry though: as has been mentioned before: the group has no power, and has to hand on propostions to the AA for passing... |
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