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| Raz | Jun 27 2011, 05:07 AM Post #81 |
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We're saying that the most you could possibly do as a Alterra leading space program is something around that of Japan or France which is very limited in scale |
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| Arcadon | Jun 27 2011, 06:17 AM Post #82 |
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And I say that's wrong. France and Japan have never shown much interest in space. If a country decided it would dedicate a large amount of funds to space programs, they could have more than 'very limited' agencies. I'm not saying on the scale of a space station, but more than 'a few satellites' as it was put earlier. |
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| Demadaha | Jun 27 2011, 06:38 AM Post #83 |
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I think Arcadon is correct on this. The Brazillian space agency has a budget of only 275 million a year and is limited to just a few satellites. Arcadon would have to overcome not being near the equator but since there is a very strong cooperative culture in terms of space exploration among Alterran nations I don't see any reason why that couldn't be overcome with a cooperative program. The Demadahan space program cooperates with XEOS (Xosaias space program which represents multiple countries) for stuff more advanced than satellites. We do handle satellite launches ourselves but need help getting to sky city one. Edit: Changed XIDA to XEOS, I put down the wrong acronym Edited by Demadaha, Jun 27 2011, 07:17 PM.
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| Raz | Jun 27 2011, 07:18 AM Post #84 |
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You grasp the problem with his argument but agree with him Arc has no strong ties to any nation in Alterra, an especially strong connection is needed to have a functioning cooperative program. I could accept a few (Like 40 at the most) satellites but any larger network would be cost prohibitive to produce and work. Going over the different Space Agency Wikipedias, I'd say that most single-country-space-programs are on the level of Brazil and their program, most of which are starting up now with systems that the US had long before anyone but the Soviets. France got a head start but still only started in the late 70s. |
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| Demadaha | Jun 27 2011, 07:53 AM Post #85 |
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Wow, I hadn't realized how isolationist Arcadon was (just read factbook). That is something that would have to be dealt with and if that isn't overcome by Arc than I agree that it would be difficult to justify a space program. On the other point of individual countries not having significant space capabilities I think I still have to disagree with you. I'll cite the Indian space program which has lunar orbiters, manned spaceflight and is planning to launch an unmanned mars probe within the next 3-4 years. It has an annual budget of 1.5 billion. I acknowledge that this is more than a typical real life country but with the lack of a US or Soviet super power to dominate space and have other countries piggy back on I think it is reasonable to assert that more Alterran nations than real life nations have this level of space capabilities. |
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| Arcadon | Jun 27 2011, 07:47 PM Post #86 |
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We don't have a space monopoly in Alterra. Everyone has to work to get to space instead of finding another country to be like 'Hey, launch this.' 40, I can accept. 40 doesn't fall into the few I was arguing against. And I know the limitations of my own country, and this was more of an beyond my wants and needs sort of thing. |
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| Xosaia | Jun 27 2011, 07:55 PM Post #87 |
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Yeah, I think there's been some miscommunication. |
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| rarier | Jul 12 2011, 05:18 AM Post #88 |
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Nonono, the bloody movie will never replace Pink Floyd with a claim on 'Dark Side of the Moon'... never I tell ya!
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| Demoness | Jul 12 2011, 05:24 AM Post #89 |
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Astronomy, man... Astronomy. Pink Floyd is good too though.
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| rarier | Jul 12 2011, 05:28 AM Post #90 |
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I finished reading through after protecting the Floyd... and certainly weapons in space could be managed. Rocket & missile tech already exist as do lasers (limited by power output) and railgun tech... gyrojet weapons go back to the 60s & 70s... it can be done without too much difficulty. That said, no weapons in space. IIRC the agreements allowed up to RPG strength for whatever might be carried up. I figure security at the big stations is carried out by taser & billy club for the most part... shotguns if/when crap gets extreme. Anything firing a solid slug... especially jacketed or saboted... bad juju. |
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