Calculating KB for PKB

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Calculating KB for PKB; As soon as I can....
Topic Started: Oct 24 2007, 04:15 PM (574 Views)
Technolink	Jan 9 2008, 05:32 PM Post #46
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	He has a nisorock I think? And I like that theory, hitting over the flinch amount results in more chance of kb. Come to think of it, I am hardpressed to remember a time after the PKB change when my PKB flinched, and the monster didn't go flying back.
	"Drawing" by Kev


Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 05:42 PM Post #47
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Technolink Jan 9 2008, 02:32 PM He has a nisorock I think? And I like that theory, hitting over the flinch amount results in more chance of kb. Come to think of it, I am hardpressed to remember a time after the PKB change when my PKB flinched, and the monster didn't go flying back. stalks him on the Rankings He's got a flame sword T_T
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Technolink	Jan 9 2008, 06:05 PM Post #48
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	Woah Kev. I was just browsing sleepy and found someone basically saying this: Without PKB (normal bow whack), if you deal above the flinch number than you get that bow's %tage of knocback. Anything below and it wont knockback ever. So your PKB+bos forbove flinch, and PKB for below is looking good. I am still convinced of a level difference though >_>
	"Drawing" by Kev


Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 06:48 PM Post #49
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Technolink Jan 9 2008, 03:05 PM Woah Kev. I was just browsing sleepy and found someone basically saying this: Without PKB (normal bow whack), if you deal above the flinch number than you get that bow's %tage of knocback. Anything below and it wont knockback ever. So your PKB+bos forbove flinch, and PKB for below is looking good. I am still convinced of a level difference though >_> I thought that was common knowledge :blink: As for a level difference, I'd think thats because you do more damage on lower level monsters, and they have lower KB rates, while higher lv monsters have really high KB rates, and defence
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Technolink	Jan 9 2008, 06:50 PM Post #50
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	perhaps.
	"Drawing" by Kev


Russt	Jan 9 2008, 07:03 PM Post #51
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	Always seemed to me like my strless's level 1 PKB was better at knocking back than a regular whack o_O Couldn't be just 2%. Maybe it's just some monsters' KB rates of like 50.
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 07:08 PM Post #52
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Sapphire8 Jan 9 2008, 04:03 PM Always seemed to me like my strless's level 1 PKB was better at knocking back than a regular whack o_O Couldn't be just 2%. Maybe it's just some monsters' KB rates of like 50. Well, remember, PKB doesn't just add to your KB rate, it also does alot more damage. I do like 300 MAX with my bowhack, and closer to 1k with PKB. The extra boost from PKB's damage lets you go past the flinch rate easier :D
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


spiritrival	Jan 9 2008, 07:15 PM Post #53
Erk Posts: 1,779 Group: Super Mods Member #6 Joined: May 10, 2007	bluebomber better read this soon. He's reseting SP from PKB to something else >.>



Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 07:18 PM Post #54
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	spiritrival Jan 9 2008, 04:15 PM bluebomber better read this soon. He's reseting SP from PKB to something else >.> Oh noez...? He hardly uses it regardless of how it works. Techno can test it if he does reset it(LOL, Techno doing a field test. as if) and if all else fails, I'll do the test myself xP
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Russt	Jan 9 2008, 07:22 PM Post #55
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	Kevvl14 Jan 9 2008, 04:08 PM Sapphire8 Jan 9 2008, 04:03 PM Always seemed to me like my strless's level 1 PKB was better at knocking back than a regular whack o_O Couldn't be just 2%. Maybe it's just some monsters' KB rates of like 50. Well, remember, PKB doesn't just add to your KB rate, it also does alot more damage. I do like 300 MAX with my bowhack, and closer to 1k with PKB. The extra boost from PKB's damage lets you go past the flinch rate easier :D Level 1 PKB, 105% damage? Psh yeah, of course -_-
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 07:25 PM Post #56
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Sapphire8 Jan 9 2008, 04:22 PM Kevvl14 Jan 9 2008, 04:08 PM Sapphire8 Jan 9 2008, 04:03 PM Always seemed to me like my strless's level 1 PKB was better at knocking back than a regular whack o_O Couldn't be just 2%. Maybe it's just some monsters' KB rates of like 50. Well, remember, PKB doesn't just add to your KB rate, it also does alot more damage. I do like 300 MAX with my bowhack, and closer to 1k with PKB. The extra boost from PKB's damage lets you go past the flinch rate easier :D Level 1 PKB, 105% damage? Psh yeah, of course -_- Thats like saying that lv 1 L7 doesn't do more than a regular star. The formula is different. I'm almost completely sure of this...
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Russt	Jan 9 2008, 07:26 PM Post #57
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	MEH. We don't know the bowwhack damage formula, anyway. And anyways, 1 L7 is like 2x70% damage
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


Kevvl	Jan 9 2008, 07:27 PM Post #58
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Sapphire8 Jan 9 2008, 04:26 PM MEH. We don't know the bowwhack damage formula, anyway. And anyways, 1 L7 is like 2x70% damage I mean per star. 1 L7 star does more than a regular star at lv 1, because the formula is different
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Technolink	Jan 9 2008, 09:18 PM Post #59
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	Kevvl14 Jan 10 2008, 12:18 AM spiritrival Jan 9 2008, 04:15 PM bluebomber better read this soon. He's reseting SP from PKB to something else >.> Oh noez...? He hardly uses it regardless of how it works. Techno can test it if he does reset it(LOL, Techno doing a field test. as if) and if all else fails, I'll do the test myself xP I gptta do my PKB stioll. I'm actually in vic atm, perhaps over the weekend. As fir PKB, I find myself using it, but I could live w/o it and have the same %/hour. PKB prob saves one 5 barbs an hour, it does more, but than again there's the time that PKB doesn't kb and I end up taking damage.
	"Drawing" by Kev


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