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Pierce; damages for various mob sizes
Topic Started: Dec 11 2007, 03:30 AM (342 Views)
robinhood Dec 11 2007, 03:30 AM Post #1
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 Ok, I went off the guess that Pierce would be the opposite of IA. That is instead of decreasing by multiples of (1-.18)^x, it's Damage and critical rate increase by multiples of (1+.18)%^x.

SE was assumed to simply add the % damage at the end. So, critical hits with SE would be skill % + 100% + SE %.

The following image sums up my findings:
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If you don't understand something, feel free to ask.

I couldn't do much other than that because there are several pieces of info I don't know:
1. SoA's actual startup time. (I just guessed about .8 secs).
2. Pierce's startup and/or charge time. Does it have a startup time? Or just a charge time?
3. Pierce's firing time.
4. Verification that the formula's used for SE and pierce's damage are accurate.

Also, if you have suggestions on how to make the Excel file more Pretty, that would be appreciated.
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spiritrival Dec 11 2007, 03:24 PM Post #2
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 Pierce charges for 1.24 seconds and takes .76 seconds to fire. So, 2 seconds total for Pierce.
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robinhood Dec 12 2007, 01:46 AM Post #3
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 Wow. New section! Thanks for moving it here. First post in it too :D

I'm not sure if you can see the entire SS in my post, so here's the URL in case you can't see the values to the far right:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/nic...ager/pierce.jpg

For pierce's time, Saphire mentioned:
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I'm pretty sure it's like this.
1.24 second before you can release.
1 second before it's fully charged.
0.7 second to shoot.
2.94 seconds total


For the timing we'll just have to observe from whatever videos are posted, or just wait till 4th job and test it out.

Here's a vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HlRopyr6vG8
At 2:27 he is hit while still finishing up charging Pierce. Apparently, he is KBed and the shot is released, but possibly weaker than normal, and only has a very short range only hitting the 2 nearest monsters.
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strongdude Dec 13 2007, 02:35 AM Post #4
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 Too much math to read!! I'll read it later, too sleepy now O_O
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TboneStone Jan 2 2008, 02:57 AM Post #5
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 according to this, pierce does over 12 times as much damage as strafe with maxed sharp eyes. if pierce were maxed earlier than sharp eyes, the difference would be even greater.
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strongdude Jan 3 2008, 12:56 AM Post #6
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 Sharp Eyes is more a priority than pierce, significantly because it enhance's strafe's damage also. And it's a party skill.
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Sum41 Jan 20 2008, 02:41 PM Post #7
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Sharp Eyes is more a priority than pierce, significantly because it enhance's strafe's damage also. And it's a party skill.

Sharp Eyes ftw!
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TboneStone Jan 22 2008, 06:40 PM Post #8
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 speaking of sharp eyes... i have some friends that wish to make me a SE slave after 4th job. -cries-
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Zinc210 Jan 22 2008, 06:44 PM Post #9
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speaking of sharp eyes... i have some friends that wish to make me a SE slave after 4th job. -cries-

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Starbomba Jul 26 2008, 06:01 PM Post #10
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speaking of sharp eyes... i have some friends that wish to make me a SE slave after 4th job. -cries-
accept... but ask for an HB, heal, HS and meso up slaves too :P
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August 2008: Got hacked 400m if my lvl 90 equips when i was lvl 89 @ 67.54% T__T
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