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Training Input Thread
Topic Started: Jan 19 2008, 12:59 AM (4,688 Views)
Russt	Jan 19 2008, 12:59 AM Post #1
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	(Why is this here?) Post any and all training suggestions here. These include but are not limited to new training areas, input on pending training areas (below), and additions to already existing entries in the guide itself. Guests are allowed to post in the forum, so suggest away!
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strongdude	Jan 19 2008, 11:47 AM Post #2
The Creator, God, Overlord, Master, and curator of cookies. Posts: 545 Group: Members Member #99 Joined: November 29, 2007	I'm making a crossbowman. When I actually get the chance to level it, I will.
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Russt	Jan 19 2008, 01:19 PM Post #3
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	spiritrival Jan 19 2008, 06:03 AM About the 5 official testers, what about low level ranges? Your Str-less isn't going to be a low level forever, I'm assuming >.> We'll figure something out. I can approximate, using chars that are slightly weaker/stronger, other classes, or we could just make a Basil thread and ask the masses. (Remember Himes?)
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Kinus	Jan 20 2008, 02:42 PM Post #4
iScrollCrap Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #116 Joined: January 13, 2008	Can you test Dual Ghost Pirates at Unbalanced Time? I was training there on my ranger with a party of CB's and warriors with priest and a leecher dk that just hb'd us, and managed to get 8%/hour at lvl 111, sure it's not that good compared to other spots for my lvl but it was still decent, plus i found steelys and some NPCable crap, wasting almost no pots at the 2nd spot. Only problem is to find a party, they are kinda rare.
	DB+Monster+You=Tombstone :D


strongdude	Jan 20 2008, 04:28 PM Post #5
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Russt	Jan 20 2008, 05:06 PM Post #6
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	You just go on thinking that, Jon.
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Sum41	Jan 20 2008, 09:25 PM Post #7
The Annoyance Posts: 365 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: September 11, 2007	Hey, since I am going to Phoenix (and will be stuck in a car for like 12 hours) I was wondering if it is cool if I put the training guide on my website... I can let you see it before I put a link up.
	omg are you serious?!?!


Russt	Jan 20 2008, 09:26 PM Post #8
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	You go ahead.
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Technolink	Jan 21 2008, 04:40 PM Post #9
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	kilaa bees are very bad. Even with my sniper it was impossible to get enough kills in a certain amount of time. I'd push it for further review, but it really isn't that appealing. Duals suck solo, can't say about party though.
	"Drawing" by Kev


Russt	Jan 21 2008, 10:17 PM Post #10
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	mrcheese2 It's only a small thing but anything helps right? With Psycho Jacks, I have another map to recommend which is Haunted House: Toy Room [3]. This map has a general spawn of 2 Psycho Jacks and 2 Psycho Jack Boxes which is quite fast, this means you usually won't get overwhelmed by them but you should never run out of them. Also, it has no mirror ghost. Just thought I would suggest it. Next update I'm going to tell everyone to direct their questions here...
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Sum41	Jan 22 2008, 03:31 PM Post #11
The Annoyance Posts: 365 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: September 11, 2007	Sum41 Jan 20 2008, 07:25 PM Hey, since I am going to Phoenix (and will be stuck in a car for like 12 hours) I was wondering if it is cool if I put the training guide on my website... I can let you see it before I put a link up. -sniff sniff- my road trip got canceled... :(
	omg are you serious?!?!


bluebomber2425	Jan 25 2008, 07:15 AM Post #12
Devil's Advocate Posts: 619 Group: Super Mods Member #52 Joined: June 18, 2007	ok~ jr newties. I definately would put that on the map. So far I get a estimate of 9% a hour solo, which is good for my level. the map is designed to be partied in my opinion, specifically for ranged characters, w/ teh ception of the top platform. These monsters atk very fast, as in have hawk out or die if your finger slips. they are stationary monsters except for the ones that transform, however, you should be able to kill the moving ones before they take five steps. This is a singular map, and it caters to damage overtime on single monsters and benefits bowmasters more. If i was daring and got lucky I probaly could spam Hurricane for a full minute, hitting monsters, not getting hit, while standing in the same spot. i think this is because of the crazy spawn this could change in the future. but even witout hi spawn its still possible as each plat has a newtie lined up spaced apart, one could stand and one spot and eventually hit up to 3. if you use Hawk, your hp pot consumption for the most part will be relatively low....but if you get hit, you better pot. The money would be great, but the problem is picking it up if you lack a pet. as as soon as you go to get teh items you can guaratee a mini dragon is gonna start blasting you, if not two. this prob aly evens up the low hp consumption as stated at the top, so the moeny is most likely moderate. One of the main problems, thats not really a problem is that it is hard to circulate the map, as a dragon keeps spwaning after oyu kill it. and agin they are in a leniar fashion and are aggro attacking you with speed. most of the time your forced to stay in one spot. in which if you are at the bottom, you will be attacking mainly a newtie that contiuosly transforms, and while it transforms you attack the second newtie. the second platform you would attack two regular newties most of the time. and they spawn fast. The third platform i owuld ignore its irregular and has the highest transformations too next golems, which give hurting blows. I personally if soloing would get the second plat or if you are skilled with hawk, after you kill the transforming newtie thats first on teh bottom go past the spawn point and kill the other two. hawk should stun the transforming newtie when ti respwans. this risks more hp damage tho for more exp. optimal skills there are Hurricane/Strafe and Hawk/Eagle, thats it. don't even waste time using booster. Bowmasters probaly fare better here becuase when the first transforms the hurricane immediately goes to the second, and if close enuf the third. I highly recommed to try to party here tho with a ranged palyer and a melle. the two ranged get the bottom, and te melle the top. There is no room really for a Priest for Hs I havent noticed yet. Preist would get blasted to death, and some ropes dragons can blast you off. but the speed of the spawn, and thesetup i metioned should yeild up to 12% a hour imo. welll thats a overview of what i have exp il give more info later, tehn decide if it should be put in. its really for the level 125 AVERAGE bowmasters imo or at least 121 min. EDIT:screw mellee. they would get beat up at the top witht he close range, you would need a Hermit or a Captain (if out they would \be perfect for top) for the top. The warriors would be losing 4k so fast if they were to attack the top. they attack that fast. This maps specialityy is purely for long Ranged players. Long Ranged players will get beat up more than 50% less than any other class.



Kinus	Jan 25 2008, 01:44 PM Post #13
iScrollCrap Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #116 Joined: January 13, 2008	Dark wyvern parties at canyon: east road. 10-11%/hour at lvl 111. The bottom spot owns for archers, you just have to rain or eruption em. With a full party, 4 attackers 1 priest/bishop it's decent exp. And you barely use hp pots, unless you want to loot.
	DB+Monster+You=Tombstone :D


bluebomber2425	Jan 25 2008, 01:51 PM Post #14
Devil's Advocate Posts: 619 Group: Super Mods Member #52 Joined: June 18, 2007	Kinus Jan 25 2008, 01:44 PM Dark wyvern parties at canyon: east road. 10-11%/hour at lvl 111. The bottom spot owns for archers, you just have to rain or eruption em. With a full party, 4 attackers 1 priest/bishop it's decent exp. And you barely use hp pots, unless you want to loot. oh..yea thats smart. you do use little pots if you were able to party that map. good one



Russt	Jan 27 2008, 05:25 PM Post #15
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	Why are all the quote tags not working ;_;
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