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Apr 16 2008, 02:50 PM

Well the old maps were of course flat

The mid maps had 1 platform that wasn't a nucsince, I maintained my same pph on z3 even with the plat.

Haven't visited the new ones yet. Maybe I will today.

BTW, Imma go write up black kents, just gotta get some info real fast.

Leafre: The Area of Black Kentaurus

Black Kentaurus
Spawn: Medium~High
Training Cost: Medium~High
Movement: Medium
EXP/HP: 1/23.1
Overall Rating: B

I Recommend: Level 85+; Decent Strafe; 11 Bliz for snipers; Some hawk for rangers; 3+ puppet

Notes: Snipers and rangers take slightly different routes. The two pits are snipable from the middle raised area, although Kents spawn on that raised area. After clearing the bottom enough, the right platform can be sniped from the right most wall (they're spears barely hit you). Then the left side is agro them all, then puppet on that top platform. For snipers, you will want to freeze/strafe any single kents, especially when you are on the middle sniping the pits. Rangers need to hawk/strafe. Watch the gophers, they pop out of the ground at certain spots. You will get hit a lot, and they don't drop anyhting special.

Check Crome's Black Kentaurus - Early Sniper training guide for more indepth info.

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Apr 6 2008, 11:28 AM

Freeinternet,Apr 6 2008

03:47 AM

heshihobo,Apr 5 2008

10:37 PM

Figured I'd sign up XD and I wanted an edit but I can't since I was a guest.  Pandas and Grizzlys are an absolute waste of time.  Coolies have better spawn, give more exp, have less hp, have less Wdef, and have better drops...

I think Weapon Defense should somehow factor in this ratio however.  Some monsters like the trickster (lol) are very tricky in this manner.  Although they have a wonderful ratio for their level, they have more than twice the WDEF of the monsters their level (zombie mushroom) which means any first jobbers will have an even harder time fighting them.  I went there one day and was sorely displeased with these findings.  Although it's a minor change with loads of work involved, it would truely be helpful.

Well the actual drops that Coolies have suck, but the mesos and the Zombie Teeth are good.

Well, Pandas and Grizzleys move faster as well. They hit you just as often as coolies and have nil mobbing potential except the bottom of map I (which you have to clear about 5 other platforms to get a sizable mob) The bottom of map II was somewhat cool since you could IA though the hills in the middle of the platforms, but no more than two or three bears would ever spawn in them, so it was a waste.

I tried out 50 Year Old Herb Garden last night and STDs make it look awful. I suppose you could use it if you can't get the first map of STDs, but the monsters move faster than STDs and although a bit weaker, I just didn't like it. The spawn can compare to STDs, but you lose a bit of training climbing up to mob the middle platform. It's also difficult because IA doesn't curve. With Arrow Bomb you could easily mob the entire platform safely from the tiny platform to the right. The spawn is just about as fast as STDs. Maybe with a Hunter with 30 AB taking the middle platform and a Crossbowman taking the bottom it would work, but I'd still be doubtful of it's usefulness when compared to STDs.

Freeinternet

Jul 24 2008, 05:16 AM

I also recently viewed the guide and saw that Manteons were taken off. I find Manteons an excellent alternative to PQing at the level ranges of level 40~50 on a lot of classes. I was there on my Crossbowman, Fighter, and my Bandit. The experience they give is good, has a nice long flat map, and you can share with a friend.

AmberShadow

 

Hey, I saw how you needed help there. I'm a Lv53 Hunter. Each monster gives me about .01% exp. Great spawns and great sniping areas. I recommend AB or IA. Both can be knocked back pretty easily and give good money.
Ginseng Jars are Lv48 and have a 1/22.6 exp ratio.
Jars themselves are Lv47 and have a 1/23 exp ratio.
I give this area an A- or a B+. I hoped this helped!

A Fellow Mapler, duskXhunter

NineCrimes

 

I think you should add the Windraiders at Crossroads to the training guide. It's good exp.

Starbomba

 

Hi saph
I've read you need people to review training guide. these are the archers i've got access to (mine and my friends's):

Starbomba - lvl 90 scrwed up stats low-STR Sniper (60 base STR, 14 nt, 20 LUK, 2724 HP with a nishada and a 30 hat)
- Screwed up 1st job build (10 DS, 1 AB, every other skill maxed)
- Sacrificed 2nd job build (to fix 1st job build, 2 PKB, FA-less, every other skill normally maxed)
- AE first 3rd job build (30 erupt, 17 strafe, 5 MB, 6 puppet, 2 eagle, 1 bliz)

Krlox - lvl 86 low-STR Ranger (77 STR, 12 LUK and normal HP)
- Altered 1st job build (everything normal, except 20 AB)
- Sacrificed 2nd job build (18 booster, 2 PKB, FA-less, everything else maxed)
- Strafe first 3rd job build (30 strafe, 11 rain, 2 puppet, 1 inferno, 5 MB)

CharlieXbow- lvl 54 normal STR xbowman
- Normal 1st job build
- Normal 2nd job build (19 mastery, 14 booster, 9 SA, 1 PKB, 30 IA)

KingBruno - lvl 48 normal STR hunter
- Normal 1st job build
- Cutomized 2nd job build (19 mastery, 14 booster, 7 SA, 9 PKB, 6 bomb)

I can put these archers to AGF's disposition, so tell me which one you'll like to test, where and what data should i look for.

9991111334

 

Hey, I can help with CwK training
I'm lvl 88 Ranger in Bera, i Mostly train on Lower Ascent or Cavern of Pain.

Abris

 

Hi Sapphire8,

on my funded lv45 Xbow ( 524~932 range due to 8 atk potion and 10 atk event helmet) ive been lvling here, and here comes my input

The map is perfect for lvling, as it has only 2 platforms, and an amazingly fast spawn rate. clear the bottom for 2-3 times with your mob skill (IA or AB), then climb up rope and go the the first small platform thingy on the right. stand there, and use your mob skill to mob some, then jump over them, en mob the rest of the ginseng jars. then, kill them with your mob skill. then repeat, repeat, repeat
this way, i gained about 35%/hour
i reccomend having at least some booster and lvl 10+ mob skill =p cuz you use it a lot here

Greetins,

Abris

miniminx135

 

i have a question. i heard that typhons are very good training for bowmans. is that true? can u edit your guide and add typhons to it? i'd really appreciate it. thanx

SomeRandmGuy

 

I checked out the 50 YO herb garden (lv49 hunter). The spawn isn't really anywhere near as good as STDs, would be ok exp for a crossbowman. Dummies are still way better . they are a bit spread out so I got overrun quite a bit, but that may be due to my impact hit not kbing 100% (bomb arrow). Also when they are neutral they tend to wander in groups of 3 or 4, if that info helps @ all

riceboy36

 

50-Year-Old Herb Garden

lvl 46 xbow
range w/o pots : 335-642
35%/hr

SP
18 Mastery
5 Booster
2 SA
22 IA

I usually 2HKO with the occasional 3HKO. The spawn is amazing especially on the top platform. It usually maxes out after I clear the bottom and there is lots of mobbing involved. Drops aren't bad, but rare. I've found a cromi and a black bandana in 131%. All in all, I love this place. It is very quiet and pretty good exp since I can't find anywhere that has a similar pph and the level or entertainment. My equips are considered above average, but I will not post them unless prompted since I do not want anyone to think that this place is gonna be bad for them based on equips. Oh and I use warrior elixirs for training.

darkbow97

 

Im sorry i diden't tell you about this spot on the archer forums like you said but w/e. Anyways, i found a great training spot for just about any lvl arrow rain. ( im lvl 73 with 1 arrow rain). In the ghost ship in room 5 i think, the one with the jr.selkies, there are some stairs there. All you have to do is just stand on the one above the middle step and spam ar/e. any lvl ar/e can hit both plats with this way. I got 21% hour doing this, and i dident waste a single hp pot. THis spot is AMAZING. Just be carefull not to pick up the drops because they have a magic attack and it can be annoying getting back up to the middle step.The spawn is also really great. please add this to your guild. BYE

Guest

Jan 4 2009, 04:00 PM

I was testing Magatia with an early AR build(lvl 73 ranger, 4 AR, bad equips) and I found Alcadno Lad Area C-2 was decent. I trained by jump ARing all monsters in the way to the most left platform(with the portal), climb onto the 2nd platform to avoid rockets and AR everything dead. Then lure all monsters, in the same way, to the most right platform(with another portal), Climb onto the 2nd platform and AR everything dead again. And repeat. Try jump-ARing over the head of roids in front of you to take less damage.

I'm not sure if if it's as good as gryphons but it could be an okay alternative to them