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Damage Done to You; Got Pots?
Topic Started: Jun 7 2008, 01:52 PM (381 Views)
Technolink	Jun 7 2008, 01:52 PM Post #1
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	Well, now that we've cracked the wdef (I hope), and I plan to finially wrap up PKB this tespia, I think its time to tackle one of the MOST useful formulas to know in maple, how much damage does a monster do to you (In Soviet Russia!). Of course, the only way to do this is to get hit, and hit, and rehit, etc etc, untill we find the monster's range, then do a bunch of fancy math and see what we can get. I am going to ask you post all of your equip's w/m def at the time, as at patch .35, every piece of armour got something called a level boost, which means if you are in the armour's level range you get an extra boost of w def (to encourage people to wear armour of their lvl). Please post: Your level, monster's level, monster m/w atk, your m/w def, all of your equip's m/w def broken down, and of course the monster's range of damage to you. Monsters seem to have a lot of mastery (xD?), so I think somewhere around 20 hits should be enough. The bests tests are going to be monsters of the same level with different m/w attacks, and monsters of the different levels with the same m/w wattacks. We should also be weary of the difference from touch damage to skill damage, as monster skills (such as a rissel (purple) squid's middle range attack, although physical, does more damage then its touch). Perhaps it'd be best to test this in Tespia, where pots are possibly free xD
	"Drawing" by Kev


spiritrival	Jun 7 2008, 02:50 PM Post #2
Erk Posts: 1,779 Group: Super Mods Member #6 Joined: May 10, 2007	I'm sensing that someone is depending on my Tespia account...



Sụm41	Jun 7 2008, 03:10 PM Post #3
The Annoyance Posts: 334 Group: Members Member #177 Joined: June 4, 2008	I can do some testing... tespia account would be awesome though haha
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tzkbowman	Jun 7 2008, 04:49 PM Post #4
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	I sense pain a-coming. :blink:
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Kevvl	Jun 7 2008, 08:40 PM Post #5
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Techno (In Soviet Russia!). I lol'd I was working with something to that affect at Newties once. Ironic: Newtie magic attacks are counted as Physical Hits! The more W-Def I had, the less damage I took. When my friend used Invincible, he took less damage, but his level of ER did NOTHING to reduce damage from those guys. Odd, eh?
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Russt	Jun 7 2008, 10:52 PM Post #6
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	I have a small concern, which may turn out to be a large one. There are other hidden values behind monster damage besides their watk/matk. We know this because Squid ink does much less damage than Viking projectiles, yet Squids have 5 more matk than Vikings. It seems pretty apparent that every ability a monster uses probably has some sort of basic attack value.
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


Technolink	Jun 7 2008, 11:35 PM Post #7
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	Yea, a kill percent to an effect. That's why I'm shooting for touch damage first, then we'll branch off.
	"Drawing" by Kev


Russt	Jun 7 2008, 11:53 PM Post #8
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	And we are sure that basic attack is constant for all monsters' touch damage?
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


Kevvl	Jun 8 2008, 12:09 AM Post #9
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	This may be the AGF's greatest adventure yet... Que Theme Music
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tzkbowman	Jun 8 2008, 12:23 AM Post #10
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	Someone should make a AGF theme music or jingle. I think we should ignore regular squids while doing this... unless someone wants to explain the ink spit phenomenon on puppet.
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Kevvl	Jun 8 2008, 12:37 AM Post #11
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Puppet... Oh God. When we finish the W-Def formula, we try to crack Puppet's def. That would suck..
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Technolink	Jun 8 2008, 12:42 AM Post #12
The Overlord Posts: 1,496 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 9, 2007	Kevvl Jun 8 2008, 12:37 AM Puppet... Oh God. When we finish the W-Def formula, we try to crack Puppet's def. That would suck.. I refuse REFUSE
	"Drawing" by Kev


Kevvl	Jun 8 2008, 12:47 AM Post #13
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	With what Sap's saying, it'll be 10x easier... I hope.
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Kevvl	Jun 8 2008, 12:52 AM Post #14
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	tzkbowman Jun 8 2008, 12:23 AM Someone should make a AGF theme music or jingle. Close Enough <- Click that. Hard to tell it's a link >.>
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


Russt	Jun 8 2008, 01:10 AM Post #15
Formula Specialist Posts: 1,635 Group: Super Mods Member #4 Joined: May 9, 2007	f3
	"Ultimate knowledge is only an experiment away" - Magatian alchemist motto Maple Formula Sheet \| Hits Per Kill Calculator \| Lost in Phantom Forest? \| Knuckle Combo %DPS Chart \| Archer/Slinger %DPS Comparison \| Archer > Hunter > Ranger Build Spoiler Maze


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