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Crits and SE; confuzzled
Topic Started: Dec 28 2008, 11:40 AM (240 Views)
L0NEHAWK	Dec 28 2008, 11:40 AM Post #1
King of Emotes Posts: 275 Group: Members Member #251 Joined: September 14, 2008	Even though I have read threads oin this i still dont understand because, well I'm not the shiniest diamond arrow in the bunch. so my questions are: A) How do criticals work, for archers? B) How do they work for assassins? C) How does SE work Thank you in advance
	I had lvl diarhea over the weekend lvled twice now im lvl constipated


tzkbowman	Dec 28 2008, 01:56 PM Post #2
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	A. Normal Crit Description: There is a 40% chance of adding 100% damage to the original attack ex. Crit on Normal Attack = 100% + 100% = 200% ex. Crit on Arrow Blow = 283% + 100% = 383% B. I assume the same, but I have no experience with it. C. SE Skill description: adds x% chance and (100+y)% damage to the original critical. ex. Crit on Normal Attack = 40% chance of 200% damage. SE Crit on Arrow Blow (considering maxed SE: x=15, y=40) = (40+15)% chance of (200+100+40)% damage = 55% chance of 340% damage. ex. Crit on Arrow Blow = 40% chance of 383% damage. SE Crit on Arrow Blow (considering maxed SE: x=15, y=40) = (40+15)% chance of (383+100+40)% damage = 55% chance of 523% damage.
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L0NEHAWK	Dec 28 2008, 07:16 PM Post #3
King of Emotes Posts: 275 Group: Members Member #251 Joined: September 14, 2008	Hmm still a bit confuzzled, not that that wasn't good but like i said I'm not terribly fast at getting math. and how do %s factor into damage ranges (they multiply)?. and in your formula where did that 40 come from? the on wit the damage percent?
	I had lvl diarhea over the weekend lvled twice now im lvl constipated


tzkbowman	Dec 28 2008, 09:24 PM Post #4
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	The stats from SE are added on to the original crit's. If you still don't understand, SOMEONE HELP, I'm not good at explaining. T.T
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spiritrival	Dec 28 2008, 10:34 PM Post #5
Erk Posts: 1,779 Group: Super Mods Member #6 Joined: May 10, 2007	Iunno. I barely understand it myself >.> Just enough to know Strafe and Hurricane get 340%.



Kevvl	Jan 2 2009, 01:16 AM Post #6
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Aya, not so hard! Tzk got it perfectly, just re-read his post a tad. Also, it works the same way for Sins. (100%+SE%+Crit%)+Damage% at a rate of (SE%+Crit%) For Mages, max SE is 1.4* (DamageAmpElemental Advantage) at a 15% rate. For Slingers/Melee characters, max SE is +40% Damage at a 15% rate For Brawlers using Stun Mastery, it's +300% damage at (whatever Stun Mastery's rate is) + 15%.
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


tzkbowman	Jan 2 2009, 02:46 AM Post #7
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	Kevvl Jan 2 2009, 01:16 AM Aya, not so hard! Tzk got it perfectly, just re-read his post a tad. Also, it works the same way for Sins. (100%+SE%+Crit%)+Damage% at a rate of (SE%+Crit%) For Mages, max SE is 1.4* (DamageAmpElemental Advantage) at a 15% rate. For Slingers/Melee characters, max SE is +40% Damage at a 15% rate For Brawlers using Stun Mastery, it's +300% damage at (whatever Stun Mastery's rate is) + 15%. So it's the same formula for Brawlers, just replace base critical with Stun Mastery. (Max is 60% chance of adding 60%)
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Kevvl	Jan 2 2009, 02:32 PM Post #8
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Replace base critical with Stun Mastery +100%. It does a total of 300% Extra damage. 140% from SE, 60% from Stun Mastery, and 100% from HELL. or somewhere like that.
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


L0NEHAWK	Jan 2 2009, 02:37 PM Post #9
King of Emotes Posts: 275 Group: Members Member #251 Joined: September 14, 2008	Kevvl Jan 2 2009, 01:16 AM Aya, not so hard! Tzk got it perfectly, just re-read his post a tad. Also, it works the same way for Sins. (100%+SE%+Crit%)+Damage% at a rate of (SE%+Crit%) For Mages, max SE is 1.4* (DamageAmpElemental Advantage) at a 15% rate. For Slingers/Melee characters, max SE is +40% Damage at a 15% rate For Brawlers using Stun Mastery, it's +300% damage at (whatever Stun Mastery's rate is) + 15%. how would u pronounce that aya? like uh yuh or uncle from jacke chan adventures? and where does tzk get the random 40% chance of 200%dmg with SE? Edited by L0NEHAWK, Jan 2 2009, 02:45 PM.
	I had lvl diarhea over the weekend lvled twice now im lvl constipated


tzkbowman	Jan 2 2009, 04:50 PM Post #10
Windreaver in HOTPINK Posts: 650 Group: Members Member #60 Joined: June 25, 2007	40% of 200% with normal attack is base critical without SE.
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Kevvl	Jan 2 2009, 09:03 PM Post #11
Brickmaster Posts: 1,178 Group: Super Mods Member #87 Joined: October 24, 2007	Pronounced "Ay-Yah".
	B> 30% 1H BW Scrolls so I can get a +5 Gold Brick :)


L0NEHAWK	Jan 2 2009, 09:14 PM Post #12
King of Emotes Posts: 275 Group: Members Member #251 Joined: September 14, 2008	so an abbreviated version of uncles AIIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! from jackie chan adventures
	I had lvl diarhea over the weekend lvled twice now im lvl constipated


spiritrival	Jan 3 2009, 12:17 AM Post #13
Erk Posts: 1,779 Group: Super Mods Member #6 Joined: May 10, 2007	L0NEHAWK Jan 2 2009, 09:14 PM so an abbreviated version of uncles AIIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! from jackie chan adventures That's one of the more stereotyped things that Asians say so it's not just him.



L0NEHAWK	Jan 4 2009, 11:16 AM Post #14
King of Emotes Posts: 275 Group: Members Member #251 Joined: September 14, 2008	spiritrival Jan 3 2009, 12:17 AM L0NEHAWK Jan 2 2009, 09:14 PM so an abbreviated version of uncles AIIIIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! from jackie chan adventures That's one of the more stereotyped things that Asians say so it's not just him. I don't like stereo typing so I just use uncle as a reference ONE MORE THING happy new year all
	I had lvl diarhea over the weekend lvled twice now im lvl constipated


spiritrival	Jan 4 2009, 11:37 AM Post #15
Erk Posts: 1,779 Group: Super Mods Member #6 Joined: May 10, 2007	It's not a happy new year until January 28 when it's Chinese New Year



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