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Northern Conference on the Anatolian Region; Bringing Baradoz Together To Settle The Ixzaran Crisis
Topic Started: Aug 6 2011, 06:49 PM (4,625 Views)
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“Well Emperor, you certainly just do not understand do you,” said President Wayne. “Anything you accuse my nation of, I can counter and drive into the ground with relative ease. I have evidence. You have conspiracies. Now I believe that of all the esteemed leaders that we have here today, none would be willing to accept your mad theories as truth. In fact, you are losing credibility the more you speak.

You say that we failed to let yourself and MVN know our intentions. That is a complete lie, because we did in fact issue a region-wide statement saying that we wanted to join North Chicanan and Celatoria on their mission to restore order. You read this before our ships set sail. If you had any questions or concerns, you or MVN could have contacted us at anytime. We would have loved to assure you that our intentions were nothing but for the good of the people. But being that this was a peacekeeping mission far outside the borders of MVN, I’m sorry that I didn’t realize I had to ask Cleopatra’s permission before I did anything.

We are all sovereign nations. I do not need to bow to another nation because I enter their hypothetical empire. In fact, Byronmandy was one of the last nations in the region to land troops in Anatolia. Already, North Chicanan, Celatoria, Veomo as well as you two,” he said, looking at the Pharaoh and Emperor. “had already landed. Nobody asked NC or Celatoria or Veomo to ask permission before they began operations. IN FACT, Byronmandy was the only nation to actually approach two other nations and ask if we could help beforehand. One of those nations was a member of your precious Vienna Alliance. We asked if we could help, and they said yes.

Meanwhile, while all of this was happening, no one in Grangale or MVN said ANYTHING. In fact, well after our statements were issued, Grangale continued operations in Istanbul, with no reaction or response. You did nothing and said absolutely nothing until AFTER MVN had attacked. Only then did you decide that our statements were bad. Before the Pharaoh and Cleopatra nearly had a heart attack, everything was well and good in Grangale. But then after MVN says that we are madmen, it must be true, right?

You also say that our sending of 100,000 troops was some awful scheme to provoke MVN into a war! That is madness. You are suggesting that I sacrificed 100,000 of the Republic’s soldiers, including that man’s brother,” he said, pointing at Ryan, “as well as Byronmandy’s greatest General and Admiral! If I have ever heard a mad man speak, it is now!” He stood up and looked around at the leaders from Celatoria, NC and Veomo. “Do not believe this utter nonsense! I am president of a democracy for god’s sake. I do not sacrifice 100,000 men so that I may have a war. How many of you truly believe that I would do such a thing?” he yelled, emotion coming full speed.

“The 100,000 troops that were sailing toward Ixzara were protected only by two fleets. Mainly so that they could be transported and landed in Anatolia. There was no way that we wanted a sea battle. There is a reason that this is called the Massacre of Rhodes. The Republic’s troops didn’t even resist until they were all near death. For you to say that I willingly sacrificed 100,000 men is absurd. I would like to think that even a crazy dictator would not think of doing such a thing, never mind a democracy like Byronmandy.

Even if I did sacrifice these 100,000 soldiers, as well as two aircraft carriers and fleets, may you explain how exactly that would enable me to win a war? You are implying that 1/6 of Byronmandy’s entire armed forces were slaughtered like pigs intentionally. This nonsense being spoken by Grangale is making Byronmandy respect dictators less and less. I can hardly comprehend what you and your Pharaoh buddy say. Anything from this point on that you two say is pointless. It is all nonsense. Saying stuff like that, you have completely lost your legitimacy before an international audience.” he said, waving his hands toward the rest of the leaders present. Surely they don’t believe what the Emperor is saying, do they? He thought to himself. He hoped sincerely that he was not the only sane person here.

“Now can we clear our heads of this nonsense and work to establish a workable peace? The three things that Mr. Ryan proposed earlier are more than acceptable and are obviously the right thing to do if anyone here cares about the future of the region. Pharaoh, Emperor,” he said, looking toward the two men, “All we need is a simple yes and then we can all go home. I am tiring of all this arguing.”
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The Emperor coldly watched President Wayne.

"You issued region wide statement couple with declaring that any nation already there was an occupying force. Tell me how were we supposed to react to that? There was no way our 10,000 could fight that. We saw an ally take action, and we stood with them. You're right actually you did let your intentions be known. By painting nations working in Anatolia as an "occupying force" you made it know that you would eventually attack them. Because what does the Republic of Byronmandy do to occupying Empires? Could be... bringing death to tyrants?

And you say we didn't react? We reopened a former Ixzaran Army base south of Istanbul, we deployed the full force of the 3rd Imperial Army and the 3rd Imperial Air Fleet to the Istanbul District upon learning of your deployment of 100,000 combat troops, in full anticipation of your attempts to eject us as "occupiers." Another case of negligence on the part of your intelligence chief?

You have facts, yes, I don't dispute that. You've argued them one way, I've simply argued them another. What I find hard to believe in your... story... is you expect us to believe that your vaunted intelligence service has been so grossly negligent as to utterly fail to anticipate this? Or am I giving your nation far too much credit..."

"If not gross negligence on your part, that leaves only one viable option then doesn't it? Which is provoke your long time nemesis into isolating itself so you could militarily defeat it, only that plan didn't work out. What other explanation could there be? You hide behind the veiner of 'democracy' and the title of 'president' but your neo-conservative party is no different than any other power seeking party."

I'm not even going to waste my time addressing you accusations of me as a crazy crackpot dictator, nor your claims that I've lost all legitimacy. I'm not going to get pulled into a name calling match with you. Last I checked I didn't see a sandbox or a slide or a swing set around here. So you should sit down and catch your breath, too much stress can lead to health problems."

"You'll get your yes or no after the Pharaoh has said his piece on the matter. We will not enter into a separate peace with you."


Edited by Grangale Empire, Sep 18 2011, 11:52 AM.
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"Mr. Emperor, if you would just read the statement, which I'm not sure if you have actually done yet, it clearly states that "only after peace has been established" will military forces in Anatolia be viewed as occupiers. And since we have already come up on a plan for the future of Anatolia, that doesn't matter anymore. I realize that those staements were not all as they should have been and could be viewed as hostile, and for that we apologize. And you know that there is no way we would ever have attacked your forces in Istabul. To do so would mean going to war with MVN as well as the rest of the Vienna Alliance, and that would not have been okay in any circumstance.

Now Pharaoh, Emperor, will you agree to the proposals I have outlined so that we may have peace? We can argue for ages over who was the real cause of this war, but to do so would be fruitless. It is all in the past, and we have had a war, no matter how you look at it. We may dispute history, but yet it will never be changed. We can only prepare for the future."
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"Very well then... Apology accepted." The Emperor lightly said.

"Still, though, We must insist on some sort of neutral forum where any, concerns can be addressed as to avoid that sort of break down in communication that lead to this. Either of the three of us could demand the presence of a representative and non-compliance would constitute a breach of the peace treaty."

The Emperor then looked around at the others. "Would anyone be willing to provide such a neutral forum?"
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"One thing that Byronamndy would love to have is an international organization where all nations of the region may speak with each other, voice concerns and promote peace, welfare and stability throughout the region. Perhaps even a place where international law may be created and enforced, so that peace treaties like the one we will make have legitamacy, as well as all other international agreements and such. A place where all nations may talk to ease tensions and make solutions so that something like this does not happen again."

(OOC: Perhaps a modified United Nations of Baradoz or something?)
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(OOC: I'll be away from my comp for the rest of the day, I'll catch up on things tonight.)
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The Stadhouder took the microphone 'Well Emperor, I bet the Pharaoh does not mind you doing the dirty work for him all the time but I am pretty interested in what he has to say himself. I still want to be convinced of the legitimacy of this war, and what you say does not help much. Maybe he has better arguments than the one you have.'
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(OOC: Sorry for not being here for a few days, some stuff suddenly cropped up that I had to deal with.)

King Edward had been listening to the two sides arguing intently and, from the look of concentration on his face, so had Chancellor Bentham. They spoke briefly to one another, then, as the Pharoah showed no signs of issuing an immediate answer, King Edward took his microphone.

"Firstly, I would just like to confirm what President Wayne has said, he did in fact contact us asking if we desired aid in Anatolia, which we readily agreed to. He made no indication that he would send them without our agreement and he did not try to apply any pressure in order to make us accept.

This brings me to my second point. I feel that, despite what happened afterwards, responsibility for this war does rest partly on my own shoulders. I was negligent in not making my acceptance of Byronmandian aid more public. Whilst I could never have anticipated the shocking actions taken by MVN, as I am certain my statements from the time will show, it is easy to see how incoming troops passing near Imperial territorial waters could be viewed as a threat.

I will say though, that Byronmandy's, and President Wayne's, conduct throughout this war has been entirely honourable and it is shameful that certain elements have tried to justify large scale war on unsubstantiated claims that a single man is a tyrant and a dictator, especially when it is considered that he is clearly not so. We would, to prevent this kind of thing happening again, support Byronmandy's call for an organisation to be set up.

As a final point, to whomever has said that the meaningless slogan "Death to Tyrants" made them fear attack. Do you consider yourselves tyrants, fellows? For I certainly do not consider myself so, and if you feel you may be considered so, it may be worth reexamining your actions."
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(OOC: Not a problem, stuff happens, hope all is taken care of.)

"If I were a tyrant I would have been removed from the throne by the Imperial Senate and the Imperial Council in accordance with the Imperial Constitution of the Grangale Empire. Also the term 'tyrant' is highly subjective..." Emperor Julii simply responded.
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The Stadhouder nodded 'Emperor, you say you are not a tyrant and I agree on that. I have never heard of the Empire of Grangale dictating its citizens around like cattle nor using them like objects. So how could it have happened that you cooporated in the massmurder of more than 100.000 men and women? Because you felt verbally threatened?'

'But that is not all! What do you think of the men and women you lost yourself? What if all was a mistake? Do you understand what that would mean? The lives of the finest people from an entire generation thrown away for nothing....'

The Stadhouder stared at the ground for a few seconds and then continued 'The Republic of the Seven United Provinces is horrified by this abomination of a war. The Republic has ventilated her thoughts and ideas on the subject and the government will agree and sign any realistic and fair peace treaty if requested.'

'Ladies and gentlemen, these were the last words I stained on this war. Due to the lack of time I suggest we end this as fast as possible.'
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