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| Phoenixguard09 | Jul 6 2011, 07:39 PM Post #1 |
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LORDS - Dwarf Lord: Dwarven fighting Lord choice. - Dwarf Runelord: Dwarven Lord with access to the Anvil of Doom. Support Lord. - Daemon Slayer: Dwarven fighting Lord choice. Can only give Ld bonus to Slayer units. HEROES - Dwarf Thane: Dwarven fighting Hero choice. - Dwarf Master Engineer: Dwarven Hero with access to powerful technology. Gives bonuses to warmachines. Support Hero. - Dragon Slayer: Dwarven fighting Hero choice. Can only give Ld bonus to Slayer units. CORE - Dwarf Warriors: Dwarven basic troops. Hand weapon and shield. Is an Anvil unit. - Dwarf Grudgebearers: Dwarven basic troops. Great weapons. Is a Hammer unit. - Dwarf Quarellers: Dwarven basic troops with crossbows. Is an Anvil unit. - Dwarf Thunderers: Dwarven basic troops with handguns. Is an Anvil unit. - Dwarf Miners?: Dwarven troops with great weapons and Underground Advance. Is a Hammer unit. - Troll Slayers: Dwarven troops with no armour and Slayer Axes. Have Talismanic Tattoos, are Unbreakable and are good at fighting monsters. A Slayer and a Hammer unit. SPECIAL - Dwarf Hammerers: Dwarven elite troops with great weapons and heavy armour. Is both a Hammer and an Anvil unit. - Dwarf Ironbreakers: Dwarven elite troops with hand weapon, shield and gromril plate. Is an Anvil unit. - Cannon: A cannon crewed by tough hairy bastards. - Bolt Thrower: A bolt thrower crewed by tough hairy bastards. - Grudge Thrower: A good stone thrower crewed by... tough hairy bastards. - Brotherhood of Grimnir: Dwarven elite Slayers. Talismanic Tattoos, Unbreakable and a Hammer. - Dwarf Rangers: Dwarven elites with great weapons and crossbows, Woodsmen and Mountaineers. Is a Hammer unit. - Dwarf Battlewagon: Tough Dwarven chariot drawn by... some creature. Perhaps something similar to the beast that draws the Dwarf Battlewagon in Battle for Middle-Earth 2? Has several options for things in the back from extra warriors to a mini Anvil of Doom sort of thing. Perhaps not an actual Anvil but something which confers bonuses to Dwarves around it. RARE - Organ Gun: A multi-barrel small-bore cannon crewed by tough hairy bastards. - Flame Cannon: A cannon which fires bolts of flame crewed by tough hairy bastards. - Dreadnoughts: A hulking mass of armoured plates controlled by a Dwarven pilot. Basically an Ironbreaker the size of a Minotaur. Comes in units of up to three? Probably an Anvil but I could see perhaps an upgrade to Hammer? To be continued... As can be seen I did some stuff for a basic list but this still needs to be approved. EDIT* Thoughts? Edited by Phoenixguard09, Sep 12 2012, 10:15 AM.
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| Deleted User | Aug 9 2011, 09:37 PM Post #2 |
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We need steam tanks for the dwarfs and empire need none |
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| Duke Dev | Aug 13 2011, 01:13 AM Post #3 |
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ushabti1 the empire does not need no steam tanks. they just need different rules for their steam tank. and the Dwarves do need some kidded steam tanks in that we agree |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2011, 01:14 AM Post #4 |
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Ask james about the steam tank personally I think they should be removed and last time I talked to him on the subject (witch was ages ago) we agreed there was no place for them in the list as the current back ground says 13 were built, five were destroyed the Skavens have one and three are beyond the skill of the current engineers to repair so there being taken apart and pieced back together so they can try and build more. Simple maths 5+1+3=9, 13-9=4. 4 out of 13 that can work and one is naln and the others are all over the place, in truth their a logistical night mare once you have finally transported them and remember their not light and don't like rough terrain but once you get them were their needed most of the time the battle has already been fought. The biggest problem is just the inconsistency with fluff because when your game reaches 3000 points you can have 6 rare choices so you can fill those with steam tanks and before we determined that there are only 4 still in working condition. And your solution of having them be like special characters was already done by Gw in the 7th edition errata of the empire book. The only way to fix this to to put a 0-1 limit on them as well as having them being counted as special characters and changing the rules see my dwarf steam tank rules in the study for an rough idea of what I personally think tanks should be like in warhammer fantasy. Just a few suggestions Cheers mate |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2011, 01:18 AM Post #5 |
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Just to expand on to what I said above the 0-1 limit on the steam tank is because just the logistics of getting several in one place is way over the top, the only time that more then one would be joining an army is when there is full scale war and that is were house rules come in. |
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| Phoenixguard09 | Aug 14 2011, 02:48 PM Post #6 |
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Yep a 0-1 Special Character choice is what we are looking at for the Steam Tanks. There is no way that there would be more than one STank taken in an Empire list. But this is the Dwarf section. Talk about Dwarves. ![]() Something that I've been considering for Dwarves is Harravik's Hammer and Anvil rules. Basically every unit in the Dwarven army is designated either a Hammer or an Anvil. The Anvil unit gains +1 to their Armour Save if they don't move and the Hammer unit gets to make counter-charges a la Empire Detachments. This would encourage both combat Dwarves and a defensive mindset but still allowing for mobility and combined arms tactics. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 14 2011, 04:06 PM Post #7 |
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Yeah, I agree we should talk about dwarves in this section but I felt it was my obligation to explain to every one the reasoning behind the steam tanks because they are a major thing we need to get right the only reason I posted it in this section is because this is were it was bought up. I think hammer and anvil rule would be a good reason to take warrior heavy armies giving you an option to take a decent dwarf force that does not consist of a gun line mentality of current dwarf armies. I think that it would be better to chose weather units are hammer or anvil before the game as having them gain both benefits seems to be too much of an advantage. |
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| Phoenixguard09 | Aug 14 2011, 06:41 PM Post #8 |
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No you misunderstand a bit there. The unit is designated either Hammer or Anvil on a unit by unit basis. CORE Warrior = Anvil (Lose option for Great Weapons) Grudgebearers = Hammer (Warriors with Great Weapons) Slayers = Hammer Thunderers = Anvil Quarellers = Anvil SPECIAL Rangers = Not sure, probs Hammer Ironbreakers = Anvil Hammerers = Both. Hammerers may actually be taken and will use their Great Weapons as they get the bonus to their save. Brotherhood of Grimnir = Hammer I think that's it. |
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| Shieldbreaker | Aug 29 2011, 01:46 AM Post #9 |
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I would like a land train,pulled by a mammoth or bulldozer like locmotive |
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| Phoenixguard09 | Aug 29 2011, 10:04 AM Post #10 |
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There's a good chance you'll see it. The bulldozer variant I mean. Dev and I have been discussing several things the Dwarves might have, including a potential Drednought type thing. But don't count on that one. |
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