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Clitheroe1 Ossett Albion 1
Topic Started: Jan 31 2015, 05:52 PM (562 Views)
petem
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This was probably one of the worst games of football I have ever seen. It would have been criminal if either team had won because both were that bad. I think I witnessed as many misplaced passes in 90 mins as you would normally expect to see in a whole season, it really was that bad. The corner in the dying seconds taken by Garner summed up his and the teams afternoon.
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Wasn't a classic by any means but hardly one of the worst games ever !!
I could name about twenty games over the last few seasons which were worse.

We've now lost 1 of our last 9 games by the way !!
Edited by andyh, Jan 31 2015, 09:33 PM.
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I have to agree that a draw was a fair result, neither team deserved three points for serving up such dross. It doesn't get much worse than that.
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I'll just repeat that we've lost 1 out of the last 9 games. Yes it wasn't great today, but it's not the end of the world !!
Edited by andyh, Jan 31 2015, 11:03 PM.
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I agree with AndyH. It wasn't a great game but given the conditions it was never going to be. Both teams battled hard to move the ball around but, as in the last weeks classic we couldn't get a decent ball into the box. The shape of the team is a bit out at the moment but, as Andy says, we've lost just 1 in 9 and comfortably mid table.
By the way, for real dross and average refereeing, have a look at the Africa Cup of nations. I didn't think what I saw of Chelsea V City was much better either.
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The shape of the team is a bit out at the moment .........
I think a "bit out" is a bit of an understatement. When you look at the players as individuals we should easily be good enough to make the play-offs, but the problem is the way the team is set up and the lack of organisation and discipline that is costing us. We still make the same basic errors week on week. Once again we left 3 players up when they had a corner and didn't has anyone defending the edge of our penalty area. This happened every time they had a corner and better teams would have taken advantage of this. Another problem is Garner keeps picking himself every week and on this performance I don't know how he can justify it. I'm not a fan of player managers and I think it's time for him to do the job as manager from the touchline. I'm sorry if my opinions upset anyone, but the performances in the last two home games have simply not been good enough.
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petem, as long as you are not attacking any other posters personally and maliciously then there should be no need to worry about upsetting anybody. You've made some valid points here. I don't think everybody on here will agree with you but we all have opinions on players, formation tactics etc.
From the top of the premier league to the bottom of the Leicester Sunday league managers, players and fans will be saying this morning that 'We'd have won that game if only ....'
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Simon has always given 100% as a player and in my opinion could possibly have played at a higher level but I have to agree that player managers don't work . He's proved a lot of the doubters including myself wrong with his management skills but I think that's where he should stay now, he can't possibly see what way the game needs to be changed from the field and if he's leaving it to someone else then he's not doing his main job which has to be manager maybe if he just concntrated on the management side we could be pushing for a play off spot
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If we had a more experienced manager that could set up the team better and get us more organized I'm sure, with the squad we have, we would be pushing for promotion. We have some very good players that would walk into most teams in our league, so why are we under performing.
Edited by petem, Feb 3 2015, 08:01 AM.
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petem
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Does the lack of replies indicate that most people agree with me. I was expecting one or twoo of the usual brigade to challenge me.
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Does the lack of replies indicate that most people agree with me. I was expecting one or two of the usual brigade to challenge me.
Edited by petem, Feb 4 2015, 01:43 PM.
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Pete, maybe the anonymity, which this Board gives, makes others question your motives for posting and hence don't post, rather than it signifying they agree with you. Hence the official, transparent forum on the club website is becoming more attractive. However, I've been a big fan of this site, so here goes. If you'd said (i) isn't Simon great at finding new players, as only Denty remains from Paul Moore's squad ie "We have some very good players that would walk into most teams in our league, so why are we under performing" - where do you think they came from? (ii) Simon has surprised me how good a manager is ie Karlos's comment "He's proved a lot of the doubters including myself wrong with his management skills". If you'd then said, would an older head get more from the players, others might have responded. For what it's worth, I think our performances make it very easy to disagree with what you say.
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I don't think the players are so much under performing but I think as I have already said in my humble opinion I think we would all see a better performing side with the manager managing its not that I think Simon isn't good enough to play at this level I just think he like almost every other player manager can't give both jobs his full attention at the same time . Maybe he'd be better off on the bench so he can come on and use his experience in a tight game but for me managing has got to be his number one priority
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I didn't know about the official forum, I had a look but there doesn't seem to be much going on. Has this been set up especially for Carl Garner to rant and rave at people that don't agree with his opinions? I see Peter posted about the Ossett game and got it from both barrels from Garner.

I said when Simon was appointed he shouldn't play but we were assured he would only be a bit part player who would play only in emergencies. He now seems to be in every week and never subs himself even if he's having an absolute stinker like on Saturday. This has been noted by a lot of fans on the topside and some even vented their anger with a few boos.
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Wouldn't give Carl the time of day to be honest he's to defensive when if comes to any one critisising anything that has anything at all to do with him when he was our manager he took to calling fans pond life , we live in a democracy's so every single supporter is entitled to an opinion Mr Ryan is arguably one of this clubs best every supporters and personally I think that gives him the right to question a bad performance make no mistake Carl garner wouldn't be seen for dust if his son wasn't the gaffer
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