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Wrangler Parts On A 3b
Topic Started: Oct 19 2009, 03:32 PM (701 Views)
johnrb
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Here's a big, off-the-wall question.

I have "inherited" a 1992 Wrangler YJ.
Straight 6, automatic.
Engine, trans, transfer case, axles are good.
Frame and tub rotten. Hood, cowl, fenders good.

Are there any parts on that thing that could be considered "bolt-on" upgrades for a 3B or are they so different that there's nothing there I could use?
I'm not a torch man or a machinist so "bolt-ons" are my only option.

I am going to see if the rear seat is usable but beyond that, I'm clueless.

Thanks.
John Burch - west burbs of Chicago
1946 2A - now I have one older than me
1949 - me - no longer older than all my vehicles
1954 3B - mostly stock - fun driver and snow plowing
1957 - 6 cyl Station Wagon - hope for the future

past Willys
1954 3B - no tub | 1959 3B - engine in pieces in a box

past addiction - VW
1969 Bus | 1970 Westfalia Camper | 1984 Westfalia Camper
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jeeper50
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Battery, tires, winch if equipped, just my $.02 Holy cow, it's got square headlights!!! Sell parts off the wrangler to fund more Willys parts. try craigslist.com, it's free to post in the for sale/parts area.
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'53 CJ3B, F134, 12v alternator, lockrights, Hot-Spark electronic module,11"self energizing brakes, Belleview winch, Beachwood summertop, OD color, built to honor all Veterans of this great country


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Larry (TX)
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John,

There are way too many years difference and they are two completely different vehicles as far as "bolt-on" exchange running gear and sheet metal items are concerned in my small relm of knowledge.

Many newer style engines, tranny's and axles, etc. have been re-installed in older flat fender (and round fender) jeeps, but not without considerable and not easily performed changes if one isn't set up to do that type of work.

As my buddy Texan in Georgia recommends, part out the newer jeep and you'll come out way ahead, money and frustration wise.

Larry S.
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'52 Willys M38
'86 Chevy M1009 CUCV (K5 4x4 Military Blazer)
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yjcanibul
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i've driven a wrangler for 20 years now , there's bits and pieces
you could make fit with enough effort but :

axles too wide and drivers side pumpkin
inline six is too long ( one of the best engines jeep ever built )
transfer case is left hand drop
etc

my 3B has some aftermarket tail lights and I have on occasion stole
some 1157 bulbs for the wrangler

the wrangler should have a 4L H.O. engine , if in good running cond
it and the computer/wiring harness can bring decent $ , part it out for
willy$ part$


57 3B : big speedo / Hurricane / YF 938 SD / IAY-4012 / T90 / D18 / 5.375 final drive / open diffs / Firestone 6ply Military NDCC / 12v Delco SI alt / Kayline Top / venting windshield / tub patched / "still fixing leaks one at a time"

89 wrangler : h/duty axles + 5spd / 200+hp 4.2L / arb locked / multiport fuel inj / warn hubs+winch / 1/4 mil km / fishing+trail riding / gets me to work
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johnrb
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Thanks guys.
That's pretty much what I expected, but I figured I'd ask in case there were some nice surprises for me hidden inside it.

Guess it's time to find somebody who wants a good drive train and scrap the rest.
John Burch - west burbs of Chicago
1946 2A - now I have one older than me
1949 - me - no longer older than all my vehicles
1954 3B - mostly stock - fun driver and snow plowing
1957 - 6 cyl Station Wagon - hope for the future

past Willys
1954 3B - no tub | 1959 3B - engine in pieces in a box

past addiction - VW
1969 Bus | 1970 Westfalia Camper | 1984 Westfalia Camper
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HOGHEAD
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JUST MY .02 WORTH ...

Find a older (74 to 86) CJ-5 or 7 front clip & attach it to the wrangler it will sell faster,, There are a lot of people that like them but want the round head lights,, I all most bought one from a friend :angry: ,, but I decided he wasn't much of a friend,, So I Bought a Cj-7 instead ,, :)
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yjcanibul
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quick/dirty measure has the wrangler rear seat about 35" inches
wide incl the metal rod/bracket , seems its just a bit too wide also ...

i'd try the fit if my 3B was here as these seats are plentiful ...
57 3B : big speedo / Hurricane / YF 938 SD / IAY-4012 / T90 / D18 / 5.375 final drive / open diffs / Firestone 6ply Military NDCC / 12v Delco SI alt / Kayline Top / venting windshield / tub patched / "still fixing leaks one at a time"

89 wrangler : h/duty axles + 5spd / 200+hp 4.2L / arb locked / multiport fuel inj / warn hubs+winch / 1/4 mil km / fishing+trail riding / gets me to work
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GBG
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john you can use the leaf springs to swap to your 3b to give you a better ride.
but they dont bolt right on, so it helps to have some fab skills. :)
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johnrb
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Again, thanks guys for the guidance.

I have tried the rear seat and it JUST fits into the 3B - about an inch to spare front to back doing fold and tilt. Cool, I have a rear seat. Now if only it were black instead of beige.
Sigh.
Can you dye vinyl?
John Burch - west burbs of Chicago
1946 2A - now I have one older than me
1949 - me - no longer older than all my vehicles
1954 3B - mostly stock - fun driver and snow plowing
1957 - 6 cyl Station Wagon - hope for the future

past Willys
1954 3B - no tub | 1959 3B - engine in pieces in a box

past addiction - VW
1969 Bus | 1970 Westfalia Camper | 1984 Westfalia Camper
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yjcanibul
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seeing your success will try mine

on the tv show 'trucks' they died some seats,
I think they used a product from eastman, spray
on , I too would be looking to match my fronts.
57 3B : big speedo / Hurricane / YF 938 SD / IAY-4012 / T90 / D18 / 5.375 final drive / open diffs / Firestone 6ply Military NDCC / 12v Delco SI alt / Kayline Top / venting windshield / tub patched / "still fixing leaks one at a time"

89 wrangler : h/duty axles + 5spd / 200+hp 4.2L / arb locked / multiport fuel inj / warn hubs+winch / 1/4 mil km / fishing+trail riding / gets me to work
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johnrb
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Thanks for the hint - I did some Googling and found these:

Parasol - company makes a spray-on vinyl dye they claim won't chip or peel:
http://www.parasolinc.com/Products.asp?ProductID=VARIKOTE

Here's some basic info on dyeing vinyl:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/modding/46

As is usual with huge companies, I'm having a hard time finding a consumer dye product from Eastman. The bigger the company, the harder it is to find their product and buy it. I'll do some more searching when I've got more time.

So the next question is - part of the YJ seat is cloth - is there a spray-on dye for cloth? The search continues.
John Burch - west burbs of Chicago
1946 2A - now I have one older than me
1949 - me - no longer older than all my vehicles
1954 3B - mostly stock - fun driver and snow plowing
1957 - 6 cyl Station Wagon - hope for the future

past Willys
1954 3B - no tub | 1959 3B - engine in pieces in a box

past addiction - VW
1969 Bus | 1970 Westfalia Camper | 1984 Westfalia Camper
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oops , its was eastwood not eastman

http://www.eastwood.com/
57 3B : big speedo / Hurricane / YF 938 SD / IAY-4012 / T90 / D18 / 5.375 final drive / open diffs / Firestone 6ply Military NDCC / 12v Delco SI alt / Kayline Top / venting windshield / tub patched / "still fixing leaks one at a time"

89 wrangler : h/duty axles + 5spd / 200+hp 4.2L / arb locked / multiport fuel inj / warn hubs+winch / 1/4 mil km / fishing+trail riding / gets me to work
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yjcanibul
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John, wrangler jack setup might be of interest also
I did a height test and noproblem sliding it under spring plate

see post
http://z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_B...?showtopic=1250

Randy
57 3B : big speedo / Hurricane / YF 938 SD / IAY-4012 / T90 / D18 / 5.375 final drive / open diffs / Firestone 6ply Military NDCC / 12v Delco SI alt / Kayline Top / venting windshield / tub patched / "still fixing leaks one at a time"

89 wrangler : h/duty axles + 5spd / 200+hp 4.2L / arb locked / multiport fuel inj / warn hubs+winch / 1/4 mil km / fishing+trail riding / gets me to work
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