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| DJ wheel cylinders; Trying to find brake parts... | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 25 2011, 06:54 PM (1,680 Views) | |
| Alex V. | May 25 2011, 06:54 PM Post #1 |
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Hello, all! Sorry for my absence lately - I've been busy with friends, chores, and a new summer farm job, with a little Jeep work thrown in here and there. I got the rear axle seal installed and it was, indeed, the correct part, worked a little more on the brakes, and currently have a front hub grease seal on order. I've given up on trying to rebuild my wheel cylinders, and have decided to go the extra $$$ to buy new ones - but I'm having trouble finding the correct ones. My DJ has 13/16" rear cylinders, and 1 1/8" fronts, rather than the 3/4" and 1" I was expecting. Where can I find reproduction cylinders of the correct bore size? |
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| ba25 | May 26 2011, 08:34 AM Post #2 |
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checked both NAPA & Oriellys online parts availability and Oriellys show the following http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/W...cher&vi=1341818 if link doesnt work part #s as follows Brake Best Hardware/Hydraulics - Wheel Cylinder Part # : WC10028 Line: BHH Rear Left Or Right Bore: 13/16 Inch $55.99 ................................................................. Brake Best Hardware/Hydraulics - Wheel Cylinder Part # : WC15427 Line: BHH Front Left Bore: 1-1/8 Inch $53.99 .................................................................. Brake Best Hardware/Hydraulics - Wheel Cylinder Part # : WC15428 Line: BHH Front Right Bore: 1-1/8 Inch $53.99 ...................................................................... wheel cyl kits Brake Best Hardware/Hydraulics - Wheel Cylinder Kit Part # : WCK11330 Line: BHH Front Bore: 1-1/8 Inch $5.99 .......................................................................... Brake Best Hardware/Hydraulics - Wheel Cylinder Kit Part # : WCK35610 Line: BHH Rear Bore: 13/16 Inch $2.99 ....................................................................... again I would take old parts in with you to compare them to new parts were wheel cyl beyond rebuilding? ? I rebuild several for 2 DJs 3 years ago and so far I have had real good luck with them. |
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| Alex V. | May 26 2011, 11:37 AM Post #3 |
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Thanks, ba25. I only have two off at the moment (one front and one rear), and from what I've been told any corrosion that honing doesn't take out will ruin the rebuild. The rear bore came pretty clean but it has a stripped bleeder and I'm not sure I didn't hone it out too big, and the front still has pits near the center of the bore after honing. The Jeep had been sitting outside for 15 years before I got it, so these cylinders probably hadn't functioned for at least that long. What do you think? Should I still try rebuilding them? |
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| ba25 | May 26 2011, 12:49 PM Post #4 |
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Alex you just have to clean them as much as possible, then after honing check them for pitting where rubber rides. if mild pitting is right in center you can get away reusing them. as long as the area where rubber rides is OK w/o big holes. you should be OK. I dont think you can go to big if using a drill powered hone. |
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BA Agan 46 Bantam T3-C 2953 46 Bantam T3-C 19638 "Big Red" 49 CJ-2A 222564 51 M38 MC 28115 52 M100 285896 62 CJ5 57548-148683 64 DJ3A 8204-24210 | |
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| Alex V. | May 26 2011, 02:27 PM Post #5 |
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I see. Given that info, I may give my originals another shot. Are the Lockheed-Wagner wheel cylinders on mine the original, factory parts, or are they replacements? |
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Alex --------------------------- '75 CJ5 '63 DJ3A '85 GMC C3500 | |
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| F Bill | May 31 2011, 01:00 PM Post #6 |
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Alex if you find out the Rock Auto ones mentioned over at the ECJ5 board work out for ya can you give us part number and application and maybe pics too? $50 apiece is way too much for wheel cylinders, but the Rock Auto price seems in line with reality. <_< |
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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain 60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD 60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it. 60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille 56 tub, from 11826 And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left. All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my DJ with doors.. | |
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| Alex V. | Jun 1 2011, 01:25 AM Post #7 |
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Yep, I can do that. My next step involving the wheel cylinders is going to be seeing if the left front will take a rebuild some time next week, and I may order one of the RockAuto cylinders if it doesn't. I'll let you know. |
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| F Bill | Jun 15 2011, 08:10 AM Post #8 |
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Here is an interesting price.. Check out the dorman and the centric pricing... http://www.clarksdiscount.com/products/196...+Hydraulics.htm |
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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain 60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD 60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it. 60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille 56 tub, from 11826 And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left. All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my DJ with doors.. | |
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| PapaC | Dec 27 2013, 12:58 AM Post #9 |
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I know this is an old thread but thought I'd tell you how I got my wheel cylinders apart without beating them to death. First I removed them and let them soak in brake fluid for about a month. Didn't help. Then I dropped them in some boiling water for a few minutes. Didn't help. Figured it was time to get out the grease gun, but how to hook it up with what I had available? I gently heated the bleed screws with a torch so I could get them out without breaking them off. Check! Borrowed a grease alemite out of a old ball joint to temporarily replace the bleed screw. Check! Took a old rubber garden hose washer, a knife, and cut me some tiny little chunks to stuff into the hole the brake line screws into. (These will be removed when cleaning them up) Check! Took a tattered end off of a old brake line and screwed into the hole so that it would compress the little chunk of rubber and seal the hole. Check! Hooked the grease gun to the alemite, gave her a few pumps and magically one end of the piston and rubber popped out of the cylinder. Check Removed the spring and wiped off some of the grease and dropped it and the piston in a coffee can with diesel fuel (remember, brake rubber parts do NOT like petroleum products so I'll clean them separately) in the meantime, wipe them down and back in the brake fluid Check Wiped out the excess grease left in the cylinder and opened a vise wide and took and found me a socket that was slightly smaller than the piston. Stuck it and the cylinder into the vise and squeezed the other piston and rubber farther inside the cylinder. The grease left helped especially once the piston started moving. Check Took it out of the vise, let the socket drop out, and drove the piston and rubber all the way through with a wooden dowel until it dropped out the same end the first one came out of when I pumped the grease in Check Set that rubber aside to be cleaned and drop the steel parts into the diesel fuel to soak awhile for future cleaning Check I was lucky, very little corrosion on the inside of them and the rubbers and pistons are almost perfect. I'm going to LIGHTLY hone them, clean everything all up, and reinstall |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Dec 28 2013, 02:06 AM Post #10 |
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Some observations. Three of my front wheel cylinders 1 1/8 were marked WAGNER G LOCKHEED on the other side of them FD15429 USA _________________________________ One of the 1 1/8 front cylinders was marked SS WAGNER LOCKHEED and on the other side FD-15429 USA will add more later.........charles |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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