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| ehrawn | Nov 24 2012, 05:37 PM Post #1 |
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Anybody on the forum today, please help. Took the 54 to get inspected and now it won't start. It started fine in the driveway, and made it the .5 mile to the gas station. I tried to pull into the bay and it'll turn over but wont lite. I pull a little fuel down the carb, but nothing happened. Any ideas? |
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| ehrawn | Nov 24 2012, 05:48 PM Post #2 |
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I should add, the engine has 1000 miles on a rebuild. p.o. Did the work, but everything that I've been able to pull apart is squeaky clean- points, plugs, carb, fuel pump. Since dumping fuel down the carb didn't seem to work, that would make me think it was spark, right? |
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| oldtime | Nov 24 2012, 06:07 PM Post #3 |
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http://z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_B...?showtopic=3479 Probably a spark issue.... see if each plug has fire ! Pull all plugs..... ground and watch for spark ! |
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| Bryan | Nov 24 2012, 08:23 PM Post #4 |
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Was it running and you shut it off, or did it shut off on its own? |
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1954 CJ3B...Original: F-134, T90, D18, Front and rear axles, Ross steering, Harrison heater, all body parts Replaced parts: Carter YF938SD. Upgrades: Front disc brakes (77 CJ5), rear 11" brakes (early 70's Wagoneer), dual master cylinder (Herm), roll bar, seat belts, custom wiring harness w/ turn signals (me), Carter glass bowl fuel filter, Tightsteer. 3rd generation of original owner South central KY | |
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| ehrawn | Nov 24 2012, 09:20 PM Post #5 |
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I had shut it off to fill the tank. |
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| HOGHEAD | Nov 24 2012, 09:27 PM Post #6 |
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It's times like this you need this attachment on your 3b.... & a fist full of quarters...
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Dargan Md... Death Before 2 Wheel Drive... "On a Steel Horse I ride" AMC Rules. "Journey" not the Destination... 59 Cj3-b (married to a 74 Cj-5 frame & AMC running gear) Willys Overland,, My Build http://z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_B...?showtopic=2892 | |
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| ehrawn | Nov 24 2012, 09:52 PM Post #7 |
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Nice. I called a truck with the quarters I had. Now that I'm home, here's the full set of symptoms known. Started, no problem at home. I let it warm up a little bit then drove about half a mile in city streets. I stoped at a gas station, filled up then started it again to move over to the service bay. I waited a couple of minutes for my turn, then tried to start it up. It turned over but wouldn't light off. I poured a little fuel down and tried, then some starting fluid. While waiting for the truck, I gave it another shot. This time, it gave a halfhearted chug, but wouldn't run. I couldn't get it to do it again. Now it's been sitting for about two hours. I tried again and got the same little chug, but nothing more. I thought I'd hook up the battery to the charger before I tried anything more, but I'm pretty sure it's electrical. |
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| Ratchet | Nov 25 2012, 08:19 AM Post #8 |
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Yep, electrical. Start with replacing the condenser & checking the coil. I don't think its a timing isue - you drove it to the station. |
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| HOGHEAD | Nov 25 2012, 08:40 AM Post #9 |
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I had a (key word HAD) a 73 Jeepster with a 6banger in her,, did the same thing,,, The points had closed up on her... Pull the cap & check your gap.. My father would use a match book cover to sit his .. dont know what the 134s are sit at ,, Might be a bad screw holding the points,,,, since your out of quarters,,, |
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Dargan Md... Death Before 2 Wheel Drive... "On a Steel Horse I ride" AMC Rules. "Journey" not the Destination... 59 Cj3-b (married to a 74 Cj-5 frame & AMC running gear) Willys Overland,, My Build http://z4.invisionfree.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_B...?showtopic=2892 | |
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| ammocj | Nov 25 2012, 12:21 PM Post #10 |
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I'd bet it's a bad condenser. Al |
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Currently residing in the Black Hills of South Dakota 1953 CJ-3b 1979 CJ-5 1957 Jeep pickup in need of serious restoration | |
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| ehrawn | Nov 25 2012, 01:38 PM Post #11 |
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i had a spare moment between feeding the kids and working the "honey-do" list to take a look. The points were completely shut at the top of the cam. I reset the gap and did a static test, opening them with a popsicle stick. I got audible pops, but not much of a spark. I tried to start it. It ran for a moment, but really rough, and then died. I'm guessing I burned the points out. While i'm at the parts store, anything else I should replace for good measure? It has the stock 6v wiring system so I don't think there's a condenser, at least I don't see one on the wiring diagram. |
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| Bryan | Nov 25 2012, 04:26 PM Post #12 |
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There's a condenser, even though its a 6V. Should be very visible next to the points. It's cheap, I'd replace it along with the points while your at it. |
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1954 CJ3B...Original: F-134, T90, D18, Front and rear axles, Ross steering, Harrison heater, all body parts Replaced parts: Carter YF938SD. Upgrades: Front disc brakes (77 CJ5), rear 11" brakes (early 70's Wagoneer), dual master cylinder (Herm), roll bar, seat belts, custom wiring harness w/ turn signals (me), Carter glass bowl fuel filter, Tightsteer. 3rd generation of original owner South central KY | |
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| ehrawn | Nov 25 2012, 06:36 PM Post #13 |
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Yes. Of course. Apparently, in addition to my loose screw, I had some wires crossed. I kept reading "condenser" and thinking "ballast resistor." |
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| Daryl | Nov 25 2012, 10:20 PM Post #14 |
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Buy 2 sets of points and have one for a spare. 5 bucks well spent for future problems. |
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Lotsa Jeeps, and a few extra parts In Bonney Lake, Washington Always willing to look at a Jeep for you BEFORE you buy it to check it out. | |
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| ehrawn | Dec 6 2012, 03:15 AM Post #15 |
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It's taken me this long to get the parts and get them installed to see if it was points or condenser. Long story short: I replaced them both and it fixed the problem. Here's the long version. Parts weren't available locally. I could get them but with the "Paradise Tax" it was cheaper to get them from the Mainland. Once I finally got the replacement points and condenser and tried to install them, I hit a snag. Here's a picture; the one on the left was the old, and the one on the right was the new. The PO had modified the spring to fit in the distributer. So that delayed installation until I could get some new tools. I got that taken care of, but then, when I tried to put the condenser in, the lead was too long and the connector too tall. I just shoved it in. Hopefully, there isn't a problem with it touching the dust cover. I set the gap and put it all back together. Half a turn and it was running. Thanks for your help, guys. We'll see how long this set lasts, but I've learned my lesson: check the gap, carry spare points and a screw driver. On a side note, where is the oiler on the IAD-4008A? The closest thing I could find was a spring-loaded knurled barrel that stuck out from under the body of the distributer, but there was no way to open it. |
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