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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 16 2012, 11:51 AM (2,952 Views) | |
| jeeper50 | Dec 20 2012, 05:21 PM Post #16 |
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ol' skool jeeper jeff
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Looks like you need new "silent block" type spring eye bushings also.( the thru bolt is not inline with the center of the spring eye) We all have issues and worn out parts on our jeeps too! My 3B springs are replacement Superlift 1" lift p/n 01-511F-6 they ride good and are reasonably priced from summit racing- $88 each I think they are 5 leaf springs. I did have to buy longer shocks to fix the new height. Before springs and tires ![]() After new spring and tires
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In the land of the blind... the one eyed man is king Texan at heart, Georgian by paycheck '53 CJ3B, F134, 12v alternator, lockrights, Hot-Spark electronic module,11"self energizing brakes, Belleview winch, Beachwood summertop, OD color, built to honor all Veterans of this great country Kayaks- Hobie Revo 13, Hobie Outback 12' both ready for the salt... | |
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| Bob | Dec 21 2012, 08:46 AM Post #17 |
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Hey now! Don't hate the messenger! |
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| jking | Dec 21 2012, 10:06 AM Post #18 |
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Nah, just kidding Bob. Heck Jeeper piled on and I think he's 2000 miles away.
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1958 CJ3B F134 engine\Dana 25 with Spicer type axles\Dana 44 rear\T90 trans\Dana 18 transfer case. Northest Ohio | |
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| oldtime | Dec 21 2012, 10:44 AM Post #19 |
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It's no harder to repair or replace the leaf springs with the body tub in position. Plan on working both front or both rear springs as a pair. Set one end of the frame on blocks just high enough to take the weight off each tire. Note: The stretched position of the brake hose but do not remove. Loosen shackles but do not remove yet. Loosen spring pivot pins but do not remove yet. Remove the lower shock bushings from the spring plates. Heat (if required) and remove the 8 spring clip (U bolt) nuts. Remove spring plates and spring clips. Leave complete axle assembly in position. Finnish removing the shackles. Finnish removing the spring pivot pins. Remove leaf springs. Repair or replace leaf springs. Rethread the spring clips and nuts or replace them. Reverse the dissassembly procedure. |
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Currently building my final F-134 powered 3B . Rock Crawler using factory parts from the Willys Motors era (1953-1963) http://s4.zetaboards.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_Board/topic/30228766/1/#new | |
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| jking | Dec 21 2012, 11:07 AM Post #20 |
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Thank you OT - It's nice to know then that I have a reasonable option. I need to begin to bring the project back together. My engine has returned and I hope to soon install it. Knowing that I can attack the springs once the cold and snow have passed allows me to move forward now and save that for later. I appreciate the instructions. |
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| jeeper50 | Dec 22 2012, 09:50 PM Post #21 |
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ol' skool jeeper jeff
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Only intended to help you decide if your going to have springs reworked in the future, just giving you info and a choice. Hope your not mad at us. It's kinda like telling an alcoholic his bottle is almost empty, we all have the jeep addiction and need our fix. my jeep is almost half empty too LOL |
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In the land of the blind... the one eyed man is king Texan at heart, Georgian by paycheck '53 CJ3B, F134, 12v alternator, lockrights, Hot-Spark electronic module,11"self energizing brakes, Belleview winch, Beachwood summertop, OD color, built to honor all Veterans of this great country Kayaks- Hobie Revo 13, Hobie Outback 12' both ready for the salt... | |
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| jking | Dec 23 2012, 10:16 AM Post #22 |
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A good sense of humor is an absolute requirement when owning a Willy's! |
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1958 CJ3B F134 engine\Dana 25 with Spicer type axles\Dana 44 rear\T90 trans\Dana 18 transfer case. Northest Ohio | |
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| jking | Jan 23 2013, 01:04 PM Post #23 |
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So I'm under the frame fitting the hat channels and I get a good look at my rear leaf springs. I thought I just miscounted before but my rear passenger does in fact have 10 leaves while the drivers rear has only 9. I noticed because the clamps around the springs (with 10) don't look like they fit right. Maybe a leave was added? Further, the other three springs are all very similar, while the oddball is, well, the oddball. Oldtime said standard is 10 in the fronts and nine on the backs. So, it's been obviously replaced, apparently with a front from another source, Jeep I'm assuming. The oddball is also the one that is showing some problems. Would there be any reason for the mismatch other then the PO just putting what he could on? As previously mentioned, I've never driven it, so I don't know what the impact is. So should I be keeping an eye out for a correct 9 leaf? Can I remove a leaf? Are those leaf clamps going to give me problems? Here's the oddball, see the way those leaf "clamps" don't fit. ![]() ![]() Here, you can see some of the problem with the rear passenger ![]() Here's the other side, ![]()
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| Bob | Jan 23 2013, 02:45 PM Post #24 |
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most of the ones I can see look original, notice the little angles on them? They look like they've bee through the wringer a few times. The odd bulges suggest lots of rust in between and some bending and bowing where there should be none. |
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| oldtime | Jan 23 2013, 08:16 PM Post #25 |
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Other than availability I see no valid reason to mix match the rear leaf assemblies. I notice that the rear spring with 10 leafs has a squared cross sectional shape to it. The odd ball spring appears to be an aftermarket leaf spring assembly. The leaf spring assemblies with the trapezoid cross section (featherd edges) happen to be original "Mather" springs. I would. IMHO Mather springs are the most desireable of all the stock type spring assemblies. Yes but ideally all individual leafs should match for length. Quite possible beacuse it is simply too tight. |
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Currently building my final F-134 powered 3B . Rock Crawler using factory parts from the Willys Motors era (1953-1963) http://s4.zetaboards.com/CJ3B_Bulletin_Board/topic/30228766/1/#new | |
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| jking | Jan 23 2013, 08:39 PM Post #26 |
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thanks Bob and Ot. I'll be on the lookout for a replacement one in Hudson. |
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1958 CJ3B F134 engine\Dana 25 with Spicer type axles\Dana 44 rear\T90 trans\Dana 18 transfer case. Northest Ohio | |
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| Bob | Jan 24 2013, 07:58 AM Post #27 |
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Hey John, I may be replacing mine in the near future. I'll see how the rest of the stuff I'm doing goes. If so, my rear ones are fine, and I'll sell those to you at a reasonable price. I got the Newgren all installed and plumbed and am working on re-routing the exhaust right now. I still need to blast and paint the main arms and the little hitch ball tab that came with it, but that's a minor detail. |
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| jking | Jan 24 2013, 08:57 AM Post #28 |
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Sounds good Bob. Glad your upgrade is going well. |
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