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Removing throttle and choke controls from dash
Topic Started: Jan 12 2013, 02:20 PM (479 Views)
63owner
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I'm trying to remove the throttle and choke controls from an old dash I'm going to reuse, along with the cowl and firewall.
The knobs just spin, and the nuts inside of the dash are rusted. Basically, when I put a wrench on the nut, everything just spins. I can't exacly figure out how they were mounted originally and I don't want to mess up the mount holes.
Any suggestions?
"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened." Dr. Seuss
Western Kentucky
63 Cj3b, F-134, original top
64 DJ3a parts vehicle
1948 CJ2A
Late 1940s Spen Model S trailer
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Larry (TX)
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Yes, there is an easy way. As it's quite obvious that you're going to have to replace both cable assy's anyway, simply take side-cutters and snip the cable guides (and inner cable) off the ends of the shafts getting them out of the way altogether, then using Vicegrips to secure the shafts from turning/spinning, the nut should unscrew with your wrench. If you're going to try and re-use the assy's., you can still secure the shafts with Vicegrips without any cutting.

The knobs on most every cable assy's. I've ever removed and installed have been secured by means of set screws. The mounting holes in the dash (memory tells me they're either 5/16" or 3/8") should have a flat spot at 6 'oclock to keep the assy's, from turning/spinning; (keeps marked knobs in correct alignment).

Hope this helps.
Larry Steed
Pearland, Texas
'53 Willys CJ3B
'52 Willys M38
'86 Chevy M1009 CUCV (K5 4x4 Military Blazer)
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63owner
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There aren't any set screws Larry. I managed to get one off by heating the shaft from the back and unscrewing it, but probably made it unusable again. I guess the threads inside the plastic (bakelite?) knob stripped over time.
The shaft spins inside the the nut. I guess I'm going to have to cut them off from the inside of the dash.
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Western Kentucky
63 Cj3b, F-134, original top
64 DJ3a parts vehicle
1948 CJ2A
Late 1940s Spen Model S trailer
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Rus Curtis
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63owner,
There is a flat spot on the bottom of the holes. If the casing/shaft is spinning, this flat spot may be worn off. I assume you've sprayed penetrant on the nuts.

Have you tried vise grips on the tail end of the threads to see if you can get the nut started? (I've also applied side pressure to create binding on a shaft like this to loosen a nut). Once started, you may be able to get needle nose on the casing up next to the dash to get the nut off.

Otherwise a cutoff wheel against that nut should free it up to slide out.

After they are out, look to see if the flat spot needs repair prior to installing your new cables.
Rus Curtis
Alabama
'54 CJ-3B "Green Gruntt"
Bantam T3-C
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63owner
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Thanks for the info guys. I ended up just having to cut them from inside the dash. Everything was rusted pretty solid and the more I tried to hold them with vice-grips, the more everything disintegrated.
"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened." Dr. Seuss
Western Kentucky
63 Cj3b, F-134, original top
64 DJ3a parts vehicle
1948 CJ2A
Late 1940s Spen Model S trailer
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