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removing a 6v starter; some provided inputs
Topic Started: Oct 18 2013, 01:11 PM (362 Views)
gianas
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On a previous post, addressing what's the best or correct starter for a 54 3B, I began asking questions about taking out the kaput starter MCH-6207 and rebuilding it.

Those are different topics than "what's the best or correct starter for a 54 3B converted to 12v?" Therefore, I made two, new topics: (1) rebuilding an old 6v starter and this one: (2) removing a 6v starter.

These were some kind and thoughtful inputs from board members, good information for someone like me with no experience and a reticence to screw up something that's not easy or cheap to replace.

Undoubtedly, most people on this forum won't need the following information, but I did and appreciated getting it. So, this is for novices, like me. I may add to it once I've taken out my starter.

greg

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Greg
Remove the negative battery cable at the battery first.
Remove the power cable from the starter.
Remove the small support bracket at the front of the starter (if your starter has one - sometimes its missing).
Remove the two mounting bolts at the bellhousing
Lift the starter out.

this was from Ratchet
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Hello Greg,

I know what you mean about the economy - that's great that you know somebody in the industry that can do a rebuild on your starter. It probably needs a bendix, bushings and a set of brushes - most of the equipment of that era was designed to be rebuilt and re-used. He will probably test the armature and field coils, then true and polish the commutator. I would do the following:

1) ALWAYS disconnect the battery cables prior to starting on your repair, set the emergency brake and chock the rear wheels. You may have to jack the front end of the Jeep up to access the mounting bolts on the bellhousing - this is a judgement call that you will have to make.
2) You may want to remove the oil bath air cleaner to give you a little better access to work on the starter removal/re-installation.
3) Disconnect the wiring to the starter - take a picture prior to removing the wiring or label the wires as you see the need - hopefully you won't be down for more than a couple of days.
4) Break the two (2) mounting bolts loose, but do not fully remove - remove the lower bolt 1st and then the upper - please be careful when removing the last bolt as the OEM starters are VERY HEAVY and you really don't want one coming down on you unexpectedly. Support the starter when removing the last bolt so it doesn't get away from you.
5) You may consider getting a pair of safety glasses and latex gloves, depending on how much dirt, grime, grease is present around the starter - it always ends up in your eyes without safety glasses. If really heavily caked, you might want to get a can of spray degreaser and try and remove whatever debris is present prior to attacking the project. I'd use a set of goggles or safety glasses regardless.
6) Re-install is the reverse of removal - now would be a good time to charge the battery and clean all connections, especially the ground (12V -) for good electrical performance. If you have a shop manual, take a look at the pictures to help envision what you will be doing with the process, then you will be prepared for the task.

I hope this helps - Good Luck with your project,

Sam Michael Jr
Jax, FL
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1) Remove the shorter bolt (top right side of starter looking from the front) completely.

2) Loosen the front bracket bolt that goes into the block, but leave it a few turns in, enough to provide some support.

3) Remove the nut and lockwasher from the longer bolt going into the bellhousing at the lower left of the starter but leave the bolt in for support.

4) Support the starter from the underside with your hand and now completely unscrew the bolt going into the block

5) Pull the bottom bolt out that you removed the nut from.

6) the starter is free, back it directly out toward the front, only need to go about 3 inches. Lift out.

this was from jking
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I like the idea of using a camera. I didn't do that when tearing down systems - assuming I'd have it back together long before I forgot....... Thanks to Lawrence for letting me take all those photos!!!

I'd also label the wires prior to disconnect and take a photo. If your terminals are labeled, all the better. Labeled wires make it easier to identify which goes where. If your starter has all its mounting bolts you should have 3 (2 on bell housing and one on the backside on an "L" bracket).

Disconnect the batt so you remove all potential accidental sparks. When the starter is loose, it should pull straight out (may need to loosen rear "L" bracket to pivot out of your way). I'd suggest reinserting all bolts in their original holes (bell housing and brackets) so you won't misplace those bolts when ready to reinstall.

this was from Russ
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thank you Ratchet, Sam, Jking, and Russ

greg
Greg Gianas
Redmond, Washington
1954 3B, daily driver; old, beat up but still strong,
last vehicle I'll probably ever own,
purchased May 2012;

first vehicle and jeep owned: back in 1965-66 (1965 CJ-5, Hurricane 134 engine); no better memories
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