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| DJ3A DISPATCHER CONVERTIBLE; RESEARCH THREAD | |
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| PapaC | Mar 1 2014, 12:58 AM Post #181 |
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Ok. It's taken at least three days now for these facts which floating around in my head in different places to alight theirselves and cause me a problem . First Chuck (binthere) pointed it out and I went back and took another look and dug up the posted facts on it I even snapped and moved a couple of pictures of it THEN Steve pointed out what I still wasn't seeing! (thanks guys, I wish others would also get involved with any tidbits of information they either know, don't know, suspect, or heck, even just want to argue about, it all helps in the long run) And now, THANKS GUYS But this is bugging me to death. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS A HARDTOP DOING ON ONE OF OUR EARLY DJ CONVERTaiBLES??? ![]() |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Mar 1 2014, 10:52 AM Post #182 |
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rod bracket holes like the ones on mine and on Bills FAMOUS convertible that helped set the whole research thing in a forward motion as seen here.
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Mar 1 2014, 03:46 PM Post #183 |
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While I was researching the previous I noticed another low profile windshield example on a dj off in some bushes![]() The cleaned up picture verifies no windshield channel like on a 3b and probable holes for the convertible turn fasteners. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| Bill Norris | Mar 2 2014, 08:07 PM Post #184 |
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Just curious, these AMA books, do they contain interior and exterior color combinations for each model and year? Thanks, Bill |
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| PapaC | Mar 4 2014, 01:08 PM Post #185 |
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Mr. Norris I wasn't ignoring you but as I'm still doing all of my work off of a iphone. (with a busted screen) and so far haven't been able to get my OLD OLD computer to fire up..... I've so 'far' been unable to access the disc. As soon as it warms up and yard sale season kicks off my wife is going to pick me up a computer or lap top that can read the disc somewhere. In the meantime my wife is taking the disc that Mr. Joe sent me to walmart to see if they will make another copy of it. IF they will copy it I'll send it to you in the hopes (almost certainty) that you have a better computer than me! |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| Bill Norris | Mar 4 2014, 08:19 PM Post #186 |
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PapaC, No worries. I think my local library may have copies of these books, but I'm not sure. What they have are like booklets with many specifications about a model, but nothing about colors. I also don't see anything referred to on them as AMA though. Thanks, Bill |
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| F Bill | Mar 4 2014, 09:26 PM Post #187 |
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If you are referring to the Commercial Vehicle Consolidated Specifications Questionnaire they have no color info that I could see. At least in the copy I got from Autolit off ebay. |
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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain 60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD 60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it. 60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille 56 tub, from 11826 And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left. All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my DJ with doors.. | |
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| F Bill | Mar 4 2014, 09:59 PM Post #188 |
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![]() I finally got the pics Lindsay Clarke sent me downloaded onto Photobucket. I still need to edit the photos and get a bunch of them upright, for some reason they didn't get placed on the disc in the orientation we had them in. Here's the album link , prepare to stand on your head to see many of them until I get time to edit them all. http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/FBilljee...HITEDJ3A?page=1 |
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59 convertible 15933 needs drivetrain 60 convertible 17052 has a V6 and 4WD 60 Surrey 17509 went thru Katrina and looks it. 60 Surrey 17918 started it all...Toyota axle, BW Wrecked Surrey Tub with fenders and grille 56 tub, from 11826 And a couple parts DJ's with no ID left. All my jeeps are projects....only runner is my DJ with doors.. | |
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| Joe Friday | Mar 4 2014, 11:54 PM Post #189 |
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Bill Norris - Let me know if you need a copy of the commercial manual disc.I can send you a copy. |
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| Bill Norris | Mar 5 2014, 06:29 AM Post #190 |
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F Bill, What you describe is what my library has. Joe, thanks for the offer. Is that Commercial book for several years, or just one? The library has 1954 if I remember right. Thanks, Bill |
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| PapaC | Mar 16 2014, 05:44 PM Post #191 |
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There's one problem that we haven't solved yet. And that was exactly what was and how did the optional top boot work for the 'folding low profile soft top' convertible work....and what did it look like. Perhaps part of the key to this puzzle can be found by looking at a slightly later model Whitco soft top boot. Let me explain......, the following is NOT the low profile top specified for the DJ3A convertible, but, there are certain similar characteristics in apparant function. Here's a image of a brochure THIS IS NOT A DJ3A CONVERTIBLE TOP!!!! ![]() A close examination of the jeep pictured in the lower left corner shows a image of the top folded back ![]() Note: this top doesn't have one top bow hinged off of the main one fastened to a single hole bracket like on our DJ's. it uses the double hole top bow bracket for two seperate top bows as pictured earlier in this thread. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Aug 13 2014, 10:26 PM Post #192 |
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Ps. The red dj3a is the second one I've documented, and maybe a third that I can still check on that had both a heater and a defroster. I also have evidence of two earlier 56 model Dj3A Dispatcher Convertibles, including mine, that had 6 volt Harrison heaters. EDIT: 2 more 1956 convertibles with 6v Harrison heaters have now been identified. 6/6/2017 |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| SteveK | Aug 14 2014, 07:42 AM Post #193 |
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I find it interesting that this air filter is so rarely seen, as the 'oil bath filter' was listed as an 'option' for all the Dispatchers, not just the Surreys and convertibles.at least on the "Specification" sheet I saw. I also remember seeing that Bruce's Blue Dispatcher 'with a tailgate' had one. Listed on that spec sheet were top options. special paint, hour meter, Fram oil filter option, but no indication of seat options, heater and/or defroster? nor that hanging step option or the chrome bumpers options?????? Somebody have a more inclusive "option sheet"? I saw on my Dispatcher's original 'Bill of Sale' where the passenger seat, and the trailer hitch were shown as dealer installs. "Dealer installs" could help explain why we see so many different things ...depended on what was available at that dealer??? Also, is that top original, as it seems to have 'snaps' exposed rather than the bar attachment method under the top material? Alll more to keep us guessing! |
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| glennstin | Aug 14 2014, 10:34 AM Post #194 |
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Thanks PapaC for helping this 1961 DJ3A, SN # 56337 20564, get out and about for discussion. And special thanks for all who have contributed to this DJ3A Convertible 15 page examination. As PapaC noted, I'm greedily withholding the exact location in hopes of prying it loose from the widow someday but she'll probably outlive me. Several items have emerged for further study, and a return trip will have to follow, hopefully with a better camera. Though much of this suspected 56K mile DJ3A looks original, many parts likely have been tampered with. The paint job is a 30 footer, probably replacement engine, the top new, but who knows how well they duplicated the original. It's my opinion now, that they were doing a low buck job spiffing up an old odd ball Jeep. I've known this unit for 20+ years, not realizing until this discussion, how uncommon it was. I knew the long time owner and he was not a restorer, only using it to show locally. I featured this DJ3A, along with another one I know of, at a Willys display probably 15 years ago. Up here in snow country 2WD Jeeps are very uncommon. At least we have another example to reference and, as this whole DJ3A Dispatcher Posts Forum has done so nicely, provided us Willys Nuts much entertainment. Thanks Derek for all you do. |
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| PapaC | Aug 14 2014, 10:56 AM Post #195 |
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Thank YOU for providing what I consider to be crucial information, no matter how small or large to our discussion!!! |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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