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| PapaC | Oct 6 2014, 03:15 AM Post #256 |
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Curious. I discovered the end yokes had been timed a few degrees off when originally welded on my driveshafts. I made a slight correction when I shortened it for the overdrive. I don't believe willys ever balanced either of my two driveshafts anyway judging from the rough welding, excess splatter, and lack of any finish work or weights. Been studying about fuel pumps, again, and how the gas supply side is both a vaccum and pump at the same time. As in vacumns fuel from the tank so it can pump it to the carb. I wish I'd have measured distance from flange to the far rivit on the arm before installing mine. Found where if that measurement is 1 3/16 " no spacer is needed. The fact that my ac 9562 came with two paper gaskets worries me. Just in case even though I don't think I need it I made this aluminum 1/8 spacer ![]() Cut out of the end of the old fuel pump. Also I got my hands on this kit to rebuild the other yf2392s carb ![]() And it finally became clear to me why these carbs that are calibrated just a little bit richer than other yf carbs and why that is so important to the Dj,s. Or I think I know. Anyway I'v decided I want to tear into one and see what all the fuss is about rebuilding them. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Oct 8 2014, 03:20 AM Post #257 |
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Just my luck. So NOW....after over a year of watching....getting nervous.....throwing out ads everywhere....somebody throws up a Dj carb for sale on eBay. ROS...rebuilt old stock. Not sure I'd heard that term before ROS but the guys got a BUNCH of different carbs, both nos and 'ROS' that just came out of the woodwork from somewhere. avg prices, 150.00 Met a kid the other day. Talk eventually turned to old cars etc. Told me his uncle used to own 45 auto parts in Tupelo. I well remember that was a Real auto parts store back in the day. Questioned him HARD. The leftover parts are piled up in the back room of a garage somewhere. Just sitting. Stored away. Getting dusty. Here's my 'STF' (shortened to fit) overdrive driveshaft and the makings of a soon to be 'CRNS' (custom replicated new stock) battery hold down bracket. ![]() My soon to be 'ROS' spicer u-joints that came off the jeep were in perfect shape except for dried grease and old rubber. They're soaking now waiting for final cleaning, new rubber seals, and new grease. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| SteveK | Oct 8 2014, 07:02 AM Post #258 |
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So Charles, how long compressed and extended, measured 'rear fixed center u-joint cup to opposing cup', did the shaft end up being? What will be your driving length? |
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| PapaC | Oct 8 2014, 11:14 PM Post #259 |
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I didn't measure compressed and extended. I just made sure when I made it that it centered up the splines in the yoke when installed on the jeep. Installed in the Dj the driveshaft now measures 18 1/2 inches CENTER TO CENTER on the fixed halves of the cups on the universal joints. Downward angle of the shortened drive shaft is now appx. 20 degrees. Wondering how worried I should be about this, the steepness of the angle that is...... and if so what corrections should be made??? |
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| SteveK | Oct 9 2014, 07:43 AM Post #260 |
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Your angle is pretty much fixed with only 18.5 inches between, unless you lower the rear end on the suspension like mine. It is only about 5 degrees now. Balance and trueness will be critical. As long as the joints are not bottomed out and have play to absorb suspension movement when spinning, and the length set up to handle 'compressed' for bottomed out suspension, and when 'suspension hangs free' the shaft isn't fully extended beforehand, I would think it is OK. No air born rides!!! Just keep it lubed and monitored for wear, including the trans end and pinion. A shaft loop might be a good idea, but not stock. I'm doing one for me just in case. Mine, a factory 19.5" extended shaft, is very close to fully extended with suspension hanging, so I'll jack it up very slowly, and definitely no airborn rides. Also, You might have to take some kidding from your daughter's friend tho... lol |
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| PapaC | Oct 10 2014, 12:57 AM Post #261 |
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Well I recon I'll just have to worry about it and keep my fingers crossed until road tested. But there is free play everywhere with no binding or scrubbing on the joints. Had to remake these longer pieces on the battery hold down because they weren't long to make the final bend. All due to a mismeasurment ![]() Here's the unfinished raw steel results before primer and paint. Best I could do from looking at pictures. I drilled holes in the outside brackets and pieces so that I could get full penetration on my spot welds. ![]() Still haven't added acid to the old 'whatever' kind of battery. Ps. On the high up jeep that's my stepdaughter, not daughter. Jennifer would know better, in fact she just fixed the plumbing in her bathroom herself. And then turned around and gave me credit for teaching her from the time she was little. ![]() Sides that, by now they're afoot again. Kept going until they tore out their trans completely. Said it was making a racket and kept driving...... and eventually limped back up to my shop in front wheel drive....... Again!!! Wouldn't want me to dare SAY what I'm actually THINKING about those idiots!!! :angry: Said fondly of course.....:) Now he's wanting to ditch the automatic for a four speed manual. On second thought, maybe NOT said so fondly!!! |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Oct 12 2014, 08:28 PM Post #262 |
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Replacing my dj's gas tank pick up tube and adding a simple filter made of stainless steel screen wire.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The wire holding the screen is soldered to the tube. Then the tube is fed through from the inside using the float access opening Then soldered the tube to the outside fitting Then fed down until my filter pickup rests on the bottom near the drain plug and soldered the top fitting to the tank. No more sightings of peppy, suspect he's hiding out in the insulation of that wall. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| SteveK | Oct 13 2014, 08:10 AM Post #263 |
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How are you going to be able to remove it to clean it if necessary once gas fumes are in tank? |
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| PapaC | Oct 13 2014, 10:45 AM Post #264 |
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Good question The pick up tube is slotted at the bottom and soldered in exactly like it was before I put the screen on. So it's was already non removable without draining the tank. With or without the screen the only way to clear the tube without solder removal involves blowing back through the gas line. The original owners manual recommends Once each season at a time the fuel supply is low in the tank, remove the drain plug in the bottom to drain out setiment and water which may have accumulated ' That's also why I opted for a coarse stainless screen filter rather than a bought really fine screen filter. With a tank that is kept relatively debri free it should self clean from use and gas sloshing around and in the meantime prevent any larger particles from reaching the jeeps fuel pump. If for some reason that screen should completely stop up, then obviously there'd be a bigger problem inside the tank that needed attending to anyway. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| div4gold | Oct 24 2014, 08:16 PM Post #265 |
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That's good news. Must take a big load off your mind and put a smile on your face. Time to buy dinner
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Old retired fart living in Ione, WA. I have a 1964 CJ3B. Recently overhauled original motor, transmission and overdrive. 11" Bronco drum brakes on all 4. Needs a new coat of paint but that will have to wait till next summer, it's next summer and I'm working on that now UPS & FEDEX will continue to profit
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| PapaC | Oct 30 2014, 02:41 PM Post #266 |
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Once upon a time there was a brand new willys jeep dispatcher sportster convertible DJ3a. All signs inducate it was kept greased and oiled and serviced for a loooong time. And then there was a wreck. It actually looked like it had been bounced around in the woods in these mid years of its life. I don't know who got ahold of it then but they were a bondo fanatic. I had previously mentioned the EXCESSIVE amount of bondo I had removed from the ENTIRE BODY being plastered and skim coated. That's right, the ENTIRE BODY. All seams plastered and in some places up to a inch thick, not kidding. Most of it I had spent weeks removing before joining this site. My grill was an exception, I had laid it aside until now. Low and behold, even IT, with easily fixable damage was also bondoed to death before it was painted white. ![]() Around that light is almost a quarter inch thick, removing it now. One thing about it, like almost everywhere else it protected the panels, and this grill from major rusting. In later years, can't be sure of the timeline someone hit a stump at some speed. That one was bad. Bent the front bumper, the front axle and , tore off some springs. No problem for these guys, they put on some springs (off of whatever) and adjusted it out the best they could. Even made and put on a crude shock stabilizer but I serously doubt it ever steered and ran true again. To be continued |
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| PapaC | Oct 31 2014, 06:48 PM Post #267 |
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Somewhere about this time these yahoos got too rough on it and tore out the rear axle. Again, nooooo problem. They either went to their own scrap pile, a friend, or a wrecking yard and picked up a 70 pinto axle and some more springs. Now that installation was the worst mess yet. It was about three inches too wide on both sides and was geared wayyyy higher. Surely low end power suffered but hey, even with that go devil engine that thing would FLY if you were to get it strung out on a straight streach. Reason I know, the few times I did drive it it'd be wanting to do 10 or 15mph idling in first gear! They also scrapped the two front 15 inch tires, put on some aluminum 4 to 5 hole adapters, and installed a matching set of 14 inch tires and rims. Their fun didn't last long though. That I can guarantee you because the next mishap, well it's going to be the one that broke the camels back for sure. To be continued...... |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Nov 5 2014, 02:52 AM Post #268 |
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The rotten wood insert was beginning to take its toll on this side![]() Replaced the bad metal and replaced the inside wood bracing with some steel spacers ![]() The other side other side wasn't as bad. Just dug out what was left of the wood and used steel spacers there too There appears to be some extra holes around where the voltage reg sits??? I'll have to sort that out and figure out which ones don't belong before plugging them with weld. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Nov 10 2014, 02:46 AM Post #269 |
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I don't know what they backed into but they bent the rear bumper crushed the gas tank, and buggered up the solid back pannel. They must of been mad (or drunk) because as they walked away they shot a hole in the passenger side step. I'v got a picture of it somewhere. Fast forward ???? Years. Somebody tries to get the old jeep running again. They cut off ALL the wires and strip the dash. When I got it it had a homemade guage cluster complete with gauges. Thank God they never tried to install it. They set a boat gas tank in the back to feed the carb and used just enough wiring to wire it for 12 volt. Tuned it up with new plugs and wires and serviced it. Luckily they also drilled a hole in the crushed gas tank which not only let the gas out, it also kept it dry and from rusting out until such day as I was able to salvage it. They without doubt discovered it wasn't as fun as they thought it would be especislly with the erratic front end, the way too high geared rear end and no brakes sooooo Once again it got parked back in that barn. (Did I mention the one with the leak right over the passenger side floorboard. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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| PapaC | Nov 10 2014, 02:55 AM Post #270 |
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Fast forward one last time. A later decedent or friend (leaning towards descendant) spots it in the barn and takes possession. One of his buddies makes him up a imitation military seat and they bolt it down. There was also an airplane ejection seat? (Heck if I know but it does kinda look like one) they had thrown in the back. It wasn't hard to start, just put gas in that boat tank, prime it up, and throw a old battery on it, He drove it a few times, carried it home, and had big plans of his MILITARY JEEP. |
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Charles Tate....North Mississippi 1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts. 1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only) | |
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