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Dj3A Dispatcher Speedometer Gear; dj3a speedometer driven gear
Topic Started: Feb 29 2016, 01:18 PM (873 Views)
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On opening up the gear box for servicing found that the speedometer gear is missing and the receptacle has been blocked with a rubber cup.
Tried to search for the design in order to replicate one or find an alternative,but the parts list doesn't give a clear picture of the same and also the related parts that hold it in place engaged to the inner gear.
I'm back here to find some help with the same.( not been able to post pictures on the forum).
Thanks.
Dinesh.
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Correct speedo gear for your dj is the 644463, it's a 17 tooth driven gear, and 5 groove drive gear
Might check with jeepsterman, he might have one, the jeepster, 473vj, 673vj w/ 4:56 rear end also used same 17 tooth gear Have pics of both if needing to see them.
willys speedo gears
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Thanks a lot Charles and Dave for the guidance.
The djs in India have kmph speedo rather than one in mph that reads from 0 to 14.
Would the number of teeth on the gear vary for that?
Another doubt is about how the gear would fit into the gear box maintaining its position, by a rubber bush or retainer or something in metal?
I do have the speedo gear but the speedo driven gear is what is missing with its cover.
thanks again.
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ba25,Feb 29 2016
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Dinesh
Correct speedo gear for your dj is the 644463, it's a 17 tooth driven gear, and 5 groove drive gear
Might check with jeepsterman, he might have one, the jeepster, 473vj, 673vj w/ 4:56 rear end also used same 17 tooth gear Have pics of both if needing to see them.  
willys speedo gears

Thanks!!! Saved my life here!!!
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Dinesh
domestic model vehicles have had dual KPH and MPH speedos down thru the years. I would imagine that same 17 tooth gear was used regardless of KPH or MPH.

from the following pic you can see the retaining ring and small bolt that is used to secure the ring in place. Ring holds speedo cable within trans

if the bolt is removed you can pull speedo cable end out of trans. the driven gear inserts into the cable end over cable. the assembly is then inserted with driven gear back into trans and is held in place by retaining ring and small bolt.

Dont have pic of cable end without driven gear, but can get it and post tomorrow.
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first two driven gears are original DJ 17 tooth gears, far right is a 18 tooth gear

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Jeepster man has the correct fiber gear 644463 as well as walcks
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That's a great picture and very informative too.
I can also see the handbrake cable there.
Could you please help me with more pictures of the speedo driven gear and detailed pictures of the handbrake cable routing too ?
Thanks again.
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driven gear is just inserted as seen and assembly is reinstalled in trans and secured with retaining ring

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speedo cable and brake cables thru firewall

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Those are great pics indeed Bruce.
Like a tutorial!
I've a doubt, after it passes the equaliser the cable is secured to the chassis by a clip retainer and then goes directly into the rear wheel drum.
Am I right Bruce?
Could you please measure the
1. length of the front cable,and the rear one?
2.the rear one in total length and on either sides of the equaliser.
3.length of the two rods that attach to the equilizer and the pivot arm of the crossmember.
This info would help me choose a make shift cable until I receive one from USA.
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after it passes the equaliser the cable is secured to the chassis by a clip retainer and then goes directly into the rear wheel drum.
Am I right

yes, pic of retainer sent to you

front cable
from what I can tell is about 50-60 inches from firewall to pivot lever

rear cable,
measured two old original and one was 86 inches end to end the other was 90 inches.

the J-bolt hooks to pivot lever and goes thru equalizer used to take up slack in cables.

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Thanks again Bruce.
The pics couldn't be traced in the pm.could you please recheck and help me with those pics.
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46 Bantam T3-C 2953
46 Bantam T3-C 19638 "Big Red"
49 CJ-2A 222564
51 M38 MC 28115
52 M100 285896
62 CJ5 57548-148683
64 DJ3A 8204-24210
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Thanks a ton Bruce.
Next is my turn to post what I have achieved out if this.
Regards.
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Dinesh
helpful info for you and your RH drive jeep,
Parts Peculiar to RH drive 'Jeep' Universal and DJ3A
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46 Bantam T3-C 19638 "Big Red"
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