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1956 DJ3A; Resurrection
Topic Started: Apr 20 2016, 10:43 PM (2,556 Views)
PapaC
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Here's the new grill welt and split rivets, the correct tool to clamp and spread the rivets on the lower left (more about that later) and some of the old and useless rivets I took out.


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Even more important is here's some VERY valuable information from the person that loaned me the tool.

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Practice on a couple of rivets first.  Its a little tricky.  I found it easier to spread the ends out just a tad with a pair of needle nose pliers.  A quick clamp seems to work better than slow and steady pressure on making the rivet roll like its supposed too.



Yep, I'm nervous. Just in case anybody was wondering.
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Practicing first was GREAT advice. Those rivets are stiff and it took me the third try to get the right feel for it.

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The first one didn't roll right, the second one went flying off to parts unknown, but the third time was the charm!!!

(Luckily they sent way more than enough rivets with the welt.
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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It seems to be getting easier now. Punch the hole and insert the rivet through the welt. Then push the end through the hole in the grill and barely spread the split with the needle nose (nothing too fancy, that might be a mistake)

Make sure the pliers are seated on the head of the rivet good and that the splits are in the grooves perfectly...

And grab them pliers with both hands and grunt and squeeze as hard as you can.

I'll finish these up tomorrow, that's enough for tonight!!!!

Almost.....Gotta run over to the 2A board and thank Ryan_289 for the use of the tool. Then I'll come back here and link to it. If anybody here's going to be installing a grill welt like this ANYTIME soon you should read it because well.... you'll see.

Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Important:

http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/topic375...654.html#355654



Charles
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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SteveK
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Charles, you're doing it right and it is looking good. Thanks for all the tips and background info along the journey. Very resourceful! The paint looks different on the outside picture. The inside pics seem to show more metallic. I would have thought it would be the other way around with the sun making the sparkle. Which is closest to what you see? Either is going to look great and make you and Debra proud to ride in. I can't wait to see those shots.
SteveK
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South Florida
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SteveK,May 31 2016
05:40 AM
Charles, you're doing it right and it is looking good.  Thanks for all the tips and background info along the journey.  Very resourceful!  The paint looks different on the outside picture.  The inside pics seem to show more metallic.  I would have thought it would be the other way around with the sun making the sparkle.  Which is closest to what you see?  Either is going to look great and make you and Debra proud to ride in.  I can't wait to see those shots.

I agree that the color acts weird (but I like it a lot) and so does everyone else that's seen it in person. It's without a doubt the best painting I've ever done and that's truly a fact.

It kinda acts like that the metallic does show more in the shade but we'll see for sure once it's all together and outside.

Couple of things. First I found it easier to slightly pre-bend the rivets like this

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and then squeeze them together just enough so they would go into the grill holes, then slightly spread them again and set tight with the tool. For me that worked easier than using my needle nose after they were through the hole.

Here's the grill with the finished welting.

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Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Now this is for comparison's sake only. I mentioned earlier that information on this site indicated a change from split rivets to push in clips right around 1963 on CJ's.

Here's what those clips look like on my 62 parts jeep. I don't know if the rubber strip is supposed to be there or not but as you can see its under the clips but only running center mast over the welt and not all of the way to the edges.


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Ps. I do 'think' I've got some of those clips and if anybody needs them I'll check to be sure. 'something' I ordered once had a couple of packs of 'some kind' of clips that was thrown in as a package deal. I 'think' they were in with a a ALA LIGHT or set of lens on eBay and I know I sure didn't order them on purpose!!! I never realized what they 'might' be until just lately!!!
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Bolts, bolts, washers, little brackets

Wow I hate to be cleaning those up one at a time. I want to be doing something FUN like bolting stuff together, or re-building seats, even wiring for real.

I've tried about everything before. Electric rust removal, acid, sand blasting, and hand scrubbing and wire brushing.

This is something new. A prototype, paint can, sand inside, bolts etc and small parts tumbler.

(Don't look at the welds the pipe was galvinized, the can was rusty and I didn't care. I just dobbed it together.


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Ps.

My wife's got something called Facebook (I do to but I NEVER check it, too much drama)

Anyway on that Facebook she's got something called time hop. She just sent me this picture of my DJ exactly one year ago today.

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Looks like that was back when I was building my wirning harness
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Not a lot to report except it's been one of those weeks. Air Cond in the house quit, buddy's truck blew a head gasket, and next week may be worse. A house as big as a mountain to roof, 100 plus squares of shingles and most of it high off the ground and a 16/12 pitch which is almost straight up.
230' of open valleys, 6 dormers, two chimneys. Worried cause my back ain't been cooperating at all lately.

Did get the bolts cleaned up, that can worked pretty good. When I started out I checked it after a while and wound up throwing everything in there that would fit whether I needed it or not. And lots of these I don't.

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I did change pretty early on to a air drill. No danger of it overheating like cordless or electric. Had to bump it along to keep everything inside falling around. Probably about a hour total off and on. A real motor would have to be .....slow....but it's done now and they're pretty clean.



Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Moving along slowly. Still lots to detail, and even more to install

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This speedometer likely never before seen on a real DJ3A Dispatcher but my excuse is that the book says it's there

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Likely wrong. All early 6v DJ3A Dispatchers ever seen to my knowledge have a 8 speedometer like this

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And of course later 12v models have the standard nine cluster
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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Charles, If you ever get that needle to the "10", you'd better be in first gear at 10MPH, or hanging on for dear life...What did it come out of, and are you going to put the "8" in at some point? It must be getting exciting for you as you get closer and closer. Handle with care!
SteveK
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SteveK,Jun 7 2016
04:46 PM
Charles, If you ever get that needle to the "10", you'd better be in first gear at 10MPH, or hanging on for dear life...What did it come out of, and are you going to put the "8" in at some point?  It must be getting exciting for you as you get closer and closer.  Handle with care!



Since my 56 didn't even have a speedometer those all came off of eBay and I re-built them. I'll have to go through all of my old emails hoping that one didn't get lost but once either Colin or Glen helped me figure out exactly which Willys 'Car' had the convex Glass 100 mph King Seeley Distometer. That's what it says on the back. Distometer.

I kind of doubt that even that car would have ever run that fast and for sure I'd never be foolish enough try to peg it out in my or ANY jeep I was ever driving or riding in.


My only excuse here is that it actually shows up in the DJ PARTS manual and the Eight that we all know is supposed to be there doesn't. This time I'm going to take full advantage of those book engineers many mistakes because uh, I like it!! I do know from my previous tests that they all are calibrated the same. Both Eights, Nines, and Tens show the exact same speed at a set rpm from the cable.

I'll always keep one of the eights I rebuilt with the DJ in case I or somebody else ever changes their mind and want to be more politically jeep correct.

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Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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A gigantic roof, severe problems with my back which is finally getting better...... and summer heat creeping in has hindered my work. Doesn't matter, I still have plenty of time!!!

As I live and breath here is the future owner of this 1956 DJ3A soft top convertible I'm scrapping together.

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I recon before its all over I'll have to eventually come up with another Willys for his little brother to keep them from fighting over it!!!

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Right now though the littlest one likes setting on my lap and using that old milk can for a drum...

GOOD TIMES!!!!

Charles
Charles Tate....North Mississippi

1956 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible
Doing ground up nuts and bolt restoration by almost entirely reconditioning original used or a few NOS DJ3A parts.

1962 WILLYS DJ3A Convertible. (For research and parts only)
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