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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,291 Views)
Juron Pilo
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demener,Jul 28 2006
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Juron Pilo,Jul 28 2006
01:08 PM
Which would be a direct consequence of 3rd party support no? I'm saying that, interestingly enough, 3rd party support always seems to go to the weakest console in any given generation.

Wait what? Playstation has had the most 3rd party support the whole time they have been the leading powerhouse. You've got the fanboys and you've got the gamers. Fanboys will buy it reguardless, gamers will buy it if it has the games they want for a price their willing to pay. I'm a gamer, I've had playstation/ps2 since highschool, but I doubt sony is going to get the 3rd party support this time around so I'll buy a nintendo this time.

http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/psone.php
http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/n64.php

The n64 was WAY stronger than the PS1...

http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/ps2.php
http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/gamecube.php
The Gamecube is, in fact, graphically superior to PS2 in a majority of ways(I've seen alot of break downs before, this is a bad site, I need a better one).. Barely though.
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ryu planeswalker,Jul 28 2006
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you know there is a point where if the quality of the gameplay drops, I will quit buying new stuff.

That's okay, game companies don't care. Who cares if they lose 1 customer if they can sell 2 million copies of "Super Football Explosion 2006 version 27! Now with improved armpit hair rendering capacity!" tomarrow? And then repackage the same game and sell it a month or two later with only the smallest tweaks? Game companies are COMPANIES, they play to the market, and they know where the money is. So what if they lose 25,000 sales here and there, when they know a steady source of millions of sales.
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The weaker console in fact has always sold the most, the only exception is SNES.
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Juron Pilo
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Nope, Sega had the more powerfull system.

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http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/master_system.php
http://www.whatconsole.co.uk/snes.php
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Thats where I disagree, "casual" gaming is a fad, during the silver/gold age of comics everyone read them right? Is that how it is now. Hell what happened to Nsync or Eminem.

10 years, the gamers that companies lose now will hurt them.
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Juron: You do realize that almost all Nintendo specs are actually underestimations rights? Rogue Squadron, a launch game for the Cube, exceeded the maximum limit of polygons that Nintendo said the Cube had.

Sega did have somethings better but alot of things was better with the SNES.
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Alphawolf55,Jul 28 2006
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Juron: You do realize that almost all Nintendo specs are actually underestimations rights? Rogue Squadron, a launch game for the Cube, exceeded the maximum limit of polygons that Nintendo said the Cube had.

thats because Luke used the force.
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"The biggest thing about my dad's world is he wanted people to have fun in life," Weinhagen said. "I think we get distracted by the everyday things you have to do in life and we forget to enjoy life and have fun.

"But my dad never did," she said. "He just wanted people to have fun."
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The thing with specs is, it depends on what you use the power FOR. You can use it for graphics, or you can use it for level design, or a number of different things. Most games don't use the max power. If they did, the system might actually overheat.
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Near as I can tell, the SNES cheated with support chips and other graphical modes. As far as raw power it was at a disadvantage.
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Well raw specs from my limited knowledge of specs, are alot different then what can actually be used. Like the Xbox sounds so much better then the Cube when that's just raw specs, when in reality the two systems are nearly even.
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Eh, the SNES wasn't particularly powerful, just adaptable. It owes alot to mode7 and the various in-cartridge support chips that really helped push the graphics for the system.
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Star Fox :thumbsup:
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Playing the Ps2 version of ultimate ninja... The attacks are uber simple but the battles are pretty hard (or I suck... either or) There is a lot of comebacks and beatdowns... I wan t to see if Shino is in.... but id he is he's unlockable (more than half the characters in the game are unlockable)
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First and only bit of Smash Bros. Brawl news in a LOOOOONG time.

Probaly gonna be the only news in a LOOOOONG time too.
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Cool. I wonder how the stage is going to be? I hope it's got a giant robot in the back ground.
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Well, here's a bit of it right here.

I hate dry spells, especially on such highly anticipated games as this. We damn well better get some major news bombs by the time the Wii is finally released. :(
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I fucking hate sony sometimes.... instead of abxy, nintendos meaningful names for buttons, sony gave them shapes.... I typically ignore them after I learn the basic moves and play more on instinct forgetting what button is actually what..... but in Naruto the special moves require you to hit a random button combonation that appears on the screen to get the full execution effect.... the cheap ass in game fighers you face auto get it of corse, Itr's great until that happens, then it's like, "fuck? I dead..."
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>.> I've seen random-button minigames a thousand times in Sony games. I've never had a problem with them.
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I can nver seem to break my old nintendo training.... If the buttens said abx and y I'd be beating everyone senceless... with shapes it's like, O, where the fuck is O, triangle, shit, lost...
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Weird. I got used to the shapes pretty easy. I actually get confused on the ABXY nowadays.
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