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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,236 Views)
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They are the bodies that are left behind when the heart is removed to become a heartless, and continue the nameing standard set by the heartless of the species name being what they are composed entirely of plus a negative modifyer. Heartless are the heart, Nobodies are the body.
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It's annoying and confusing!
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Juron Pilo
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The HEARTLESS are made from the HEART of the user? This makes PERFECT sense in and of itself>.<.
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Thaaaats Disney![/canned laughter]
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Shouldn't it, y'know, be the other way around?
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It's supposed to be ironic.

The Heartless are created from dark hearts, and the Nobodies are just empty shells.
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Yup, it should. I think its probobly supposed to be a meaningful or something.
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Jewthulhu,Aug 20 2006
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A soul and heart only? Only the metaphysical elements remained. How did he walk around and carry the keyblade and stuff?

I imagine it had something to do with the keyblade itself, There are alot of unanswered questions about it.
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"The biggest thing about my dad's world is he wanted people to have fun in life," Weinhagen said. "I think we get distracted by the everyday things you have to do in life and we forget to enjoy life and have fun.

"But my dad never did," she said. "He just wanted people to have fun."
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Such as how Riku was able to pull a new one out of his ass near the end to give to Kairi.
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Hrm... What about the fact that that "fight" happened inside the digital world thinggy. I don't know. The entire idea of Roxas entering such a thing is problematic in itself(since he is only a body!). I mean, presumably Roxas's body-which-is-actually-Soras is SOMEWHERE. Its still not a plothole, but there are two bodies, we just don't know where the original is?
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Yea that pissed me off too, but at that point everyone and their mother had a keyblade so it didn't matter much, but with all due respect she is a princess of heart.

Edit : Sora and Roxas are like Kami and Piccallo in DBZ, two halfs of a whole.
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"The biggest thing about my dad's world is he wanted people to have fun in life," Weinhagen said. "I think we get distracted by the everyday things you have to do in life and we forget to enjoy life and have fun.

"But my dad never did," she said. "He just wanted people to have fun."
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...maybe they used the potara earings?

*hasn't played yet.*
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...Sora is the whole.
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but he got the body from a heartless.
Malia Weinhagen talking about her father Dave Arneson
 

"The biggest thing about my dad's world is he wanted people to have fun in life," Weinhagen said. "I think we get distracted by the everyday things you have to do in life and we forget to enjoy life and have fun.

"But my dad never did," she said. "He just wanted people to have fun."
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What about Roxas still existing after the fact? Or that supposedly, they met back in KH1, which means that while Sora was WHOLE Roxas still existed as a nobody soooo....

Ok... ARGH!
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You know to me, the Nobodies being the mind, would make more sense then being the body.
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Sora wasn't 'whole' while Roxas was around, not in the traditional sense, anyway.

Sora's 'body', the later eighth of KH1 and all of CoM, was a projection, created by the strength of his heart and possibly having something to do with him being the Keyblade Master.
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As far as I can tell its
1. Sora stabs self with keyblade, heart becomes heartless and body vanishes to become Roxas wherever it is Nobodys go when they form
2. Kairi's love for Sora coalesces into a temporary body which the Sora-heartless uses for the rest of the game and CoM
3. Sora goes into Memory Pod at end of CoM, pod doesn't work as well on a love-based organism as it does on the carbon-based ones it was designed for.
4. Sora-heartless moves to Roxas, putting Mind, Body, and Heart back together. Body composed of love, aka Meatpuppet of Love due to its mindless condition is now conspicously missing.
Edit: THe temporary body's GOT to be love based. Created when Kairi hugged the heartless, remember?
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Juron Pilo,Aug 20 2006
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What about Roxas still existing after the fact? Or that supposedly, they met back in KH1, which means that while Sora was WHOLE Roxas still existed as a nobody soooo....

Ok... ARGH!

Sora used Riku's keyblade which unlocks one's heart to free kairi's heart from him, Kairi probably never went heartless because of her being a princess of heart.

Roxas was formed in the meantime, and Xemnas who was there at the time if you take final mix into account whisked the new nobody away, knowing what kind of power he could have.

Sora meanwhile ran around as a shadow untill running into Donald and Goofy who were escorting Kairi to safety. She somehow figures out who the heartless is and manages to call out to his mind which is floating in a dark void. Sora transforms and presumably uses the heartless' body untill he meets up with Roxas, with the drawback of limited power.
Malia Weinhagen talking about her father Dave Arneson
 

"The biggest thing about my dad's world is he wanted people to have fun in life," Weinhagen said. "I think we get distracted by the everyday things you have to do in life and we forget to enjoy life and have fun.

"But my dad never did," she said. "He just wanted people to have fun."
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Problem with your theory: Roxas yet exists afterwords.
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