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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,200 Views)
Juron Pilo
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*sighs*
High priority moves, killer smash, godly recovery, alot of mind tricks, several spikes(air cutter makes a great spike in certain circumstances and levels), great arials, cheap ass anti-recovery stone(nerfed, you can't escape stone mid air as easy), better copy abilities than in melee, no stupid fireball crap(his original dash, while weaker, was much more flexible, its intended to be a suprise, or to take advantage of momentary weakness), decent grab/roll game, small(hard to hit), and finally his copy abilities are just superior imo(falcons punch got nerfed just as bad for kirb as for c. falcon, bow sucks vs boomerang, Fox's lasers don't have knockback or quite the imact they used to, and pk flash just sucks while pk fire is meh)...

I'm probably missing some things. An important thing to note is that you NEED to master short hops, because Kirby's normal jump is orbital.

I would say that while Kirby is definately top tier in SSB, he's not exactly broken. He'll make the difference in an otherwise close skill game, but he's not so broken you can take people several skill ranks above you if your mismatched like in SSBM-_-'. Every single damn SSB character has a viable strategy. This is the advantage of a small cast that lacks tons of clones, I think.
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The old Fox it seems was turned into Falco.
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Juron Pilo
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Not really.

Yes and no. The lasers obviously act differently regardless. I'm not saying it shoots any faster or slower, I'm saying the laser itself is different.
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Juron Pilo,Sep 6 2006
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*sighs*
High priority moves, killer smash, godly recovery, alot of mind tricks, several spikes(air cutter makes a great spike in certain circumstances and levels), great arials, cheap ass anti-recovery stone(nerfed, you can't escape stone mid air as easy), better copy abilities than in melee, no stupid fireball crap(his original dash, while weaker, was much more flexible, its intended to be a suprise, or to take advantage of momentary weakness), decent grab/roll game, small(hard to hit), and finally his copy abilities are just superior imo(falcons punch got nerfed just as bad for kirb as for c. falcon, bow sucks vs boomerang, Fox's lasers don't have knockback or quite the imact they used to, and pk flash just sucks while pk fire is meh)...

I'm probably missing some things. An important thing to note is that you NEED to master short hops, because Kirby's normal jump is orbital.

I would say that while Kirby is definately top tier in SSB, he's not exactly broken. He'll make the difference in an otherwise close skill game, but he's not so broken you can take people several skill ranks above you if your mismatched like in SSBM-_-'. Every single damn SSB character has a viable strategy. This is the advantage of a small cast that lacks tons of clones, I think.

(X)_x HURRRRG! *gasp*

*drops dead*


That...was unexpected, how did I never notice all this?
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Don't worry, if the Bison ever take over the midlands Godzilla will take care of them. Just like he did with Bambi.
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Robotech Master
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Savage Released for Free!

To install, follow the steps here:
http://www.s2games.com/savage/downloads.php
As it recommends, install SEP-2F, which is the latest version Savage Enhancement Project. Unzip contents over your Savage folder. Direct link:
http://www.evolvedclan.com/index.ph...file=SEP-2F.zip

Modified from Wikipedia:

The developers call Savage a Real Time Strategy Shooter. Originally released in the summer of 2003, it was made free on September 1st 2006 in anticipation of the release of Savage 2.

There are two sides: Humans and Beasts. The game can be played with 64 players at most. Each team has a commander who plays an RTS: researching weapons, placing buildings to be built and commanding everyone. The other players on the team play an FPS. They kill the enemies, help build buildings and gather resources. Commanders can assign officers who help coordinate the soldiers, allowing for intricate coordination. There are also worker NPCs on both teams who are directly controlled by the commander for construction and resource gathering.

The soldiers fight using a melee weapon, which is unique to their unit, and a selectable ranged weapon, which have no unit restrictions. Each race has unique strengths and weaknesses. The Beasts are proficient at melee attacks as they can leap towards their enemies and their first weapon line is completely melee based. Humans, on the other hand, focus on ranged attacks more because they lack special melee weapons.

The community is still alive and you can usually find at least two full 64 player servers at 10pm GMT and some smaller ones.

Minimum System Requirements:
Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP or Linux
Controls: Mouse and Keyboard
CPU: 600 MHz processor
Memory: 128 MB RAM
Drives: 4x CD-ROM and 600 MB Hard Drive space for installation
Video: GeForce or Radeon series graphics cards
Online Connection: 56k modem

Recommended System Requirements:
Controls: 3 button mouse with a scroll wheel
CPU: 1000 MHz CPU or better (subject to change)
Memory: 256 MB RAM
Video: GeForce4 or better (or OpenGL compatible Video Adapter card with 64 MB RAM)
Online Connection: Broadband (Cable Modem, DSL, or better)
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Juron Pilo
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Blah, with 2.67 GHz processor and a Radeon 7500, my computer is a little old, but it still packs a mean punch.
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Robotech Master,Sep 6 2006
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Savage Released for Free!

FINALLY. I was never able to play the demo because no one was ever on, and I've wanted to give it a shot but could never find it.
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Juron Pilo
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That was a fast download...O.o

edit: YAY! I get update my driver to meet open GL standards! WOO!
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Robotech Master
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The former update link is broken, and outdated, so use http://www.evolvedclan.com/index.php?ind=d...ry_view&iden=57
"Death is a primitive concept, I prefer to think of them as battling evil, in another dimension!"
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http://tv.zeroboy.net/springtime

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Juron Pilo
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Quote:
 
Your OpenGL driver (Microsoft Corporation GDI Generic version 1.1.0) doesn't support at least OpenGL version 1.2. Save requires at least OpenGL version 1.2


...DIE SCUM! *blam blam*
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Iyestorm
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I can't find SEP2F...
Dr. Wiley has surrendered. Mega Man has saved the planet from destruction. But will it last!!!

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"Good Morniii--AGH! I can't do it! I don't wanna be cute! I wanna be a boy!"

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Juron Pilo
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I can't either, I took the 3T to be done with it.
Sooo... what server you gonna use?
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Iyestorm
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I'll know when I can start playing.
Dr. Wiley has surrendered. Mega Man has saved the planet from destruction. But will it last!!!

"Think about it, mate: legends! When has a legend ever not been true, huh? HUH?!"

--Marine, Sonic Rush Adventure

"Good Morniii--AGH! I can't do it! I don't wanna be cute! I wanna be a boy!"

--Ouran High School Host Club; Haruhi's English Voice Actor messing around.
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Robotech Master
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EvO's Community USA Server is rapidly hosting a bunch of us.
"Death is a primitive concept, I prefer to think of them as battling evil, in another dimension!"
-Gary Gygax

http://tv.zeroboy.net/springtime

Check out Red (White Meteos) and I's livestream!
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Juron Pilo
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Wow... humans suck... I mean sure, they can build stuff faster but you got your zerg rush effect with the enemy.
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I might try it tomorrow... too late for me now.
Dr. Wiley has surrendered. Mega Man has saved the planet from destruction. But will it last!!!

"Think about it, mate: legends! When has a legend ever not been true, huh? HUH?!"

--Marine, Sonic Rush Adventure

"Good Morniii--AGH! I can't do it! I don't wanna be cute! I wanna be a boy!"

--Ouran High School Host Club; Haruhi's English Voice Actor messing around.
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(Q)_< Ditto, but dam this looks kick ass


EDIT: What are these extra mods it recomends? EX2 and something
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Don't worry, if the Bison ever take over the midlands Godzilla will take care of them. Just like he did with Bambi.
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Ha ha ha, awsome! I thought the Humans would be the side I enjoy more, but they actually suck pretty hard. However, being a Beastman, and especially a Behemoth, is awsome! The Beastman Leap is far better then the Human Block, and their Magic attacks seem more effective then the Human Guns. Now if only the Behemoth was better at hitting people (Despite the fact that you're swinging a tree, you can only hurt humans with a direct hit... But man they go flying if you score that hit)
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(Q)_< Hm...humans,beast,humans,beast....bah, I like guns too much for my own good
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Don't worry, if the Bison ever take over the midlands Godzilla will take care of them. Just like he did with Bambi.
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Juron Pilo
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Actually I just saw a human team win!

Completely ignore enemy aggressors and focusing on resource gathering seems to work well...

Oh, and the whole "ammo" thing doesn't work for me.

edit: Humans rely ALOT on their leader. Buildings are really all the human team has going for them.
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