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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,171 Views)
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This debate is dumb, but I do want to add that I thought Wind Waker was awsome: Easily my second favorite Legend of Zelda game (Majora's Mask was first. I thought it was the hardest Zelda game yet, and the need to reset every few days added neat elements to it and a sense of tension that most games lack, since you're battling against the clock constantly).
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I said INFLUENTIAL, not innovative.

Also what problems with the wii? Really when it comes to controlling games with the Wii I've heard almost no bad outside of Red Steel.
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Juron Pilo
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They switched up the controls on Twilight Princess, and it creates problem because the results don't necessarily mimic your movements, even as far as direction.
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The hands on for Wii version that I've read say that the controls are great.
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It's probably responsive, yes, but I'd really rather not flap my damn arms around to play a game. :(
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You don't need to, they say that if you really feel like it, the majority of the time you can play games without barely moving your wrist.
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Bah, adding some moving to a game wouldn't hurt most of today's gamers...
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If they really don't like it, they can always use a normal controller or something.

Hey, you know what was a really good game before I stopped playing it and then forgot how?

Jet Force Gemini.
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Read my link next time then.

I'm not re-explaining it yet again when theres a link right there.

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Juron are you posting in the right thread?
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Yes.
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Then who are you talking to? Also what link?

I'm in the confusion of 12:21 AM ness trying to get the damn printer to work.
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Juron Pilo
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*sighs*
Here:
http://blogs.ign.com/Peer-IGN/2006/09/17/31160/
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Hey you were the one who didn't post it! :lol:
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I posted it. Back when I was talking with Iye. Before you jumped in without having read anything of what we were talking about or what I was arguing, which explains why you stuck words in my mouth it seems.
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"I'm not re-explaining it yet again when theres a link right there."

That made it sound like it was on this page or the last so I checked there.

Also putting words in your mouth? You mean about you saying the game is bad, first originally all I said was you're trying to make it sound bad it seems, and also basically talking about how the game disappointed and claiming it only did one thing right is going to make most people think you're calling it bad.
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Missing the point. If you never even read what we're talking about, what right did you have to jump in like you did? None. None at all.
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What the hell? Who said I didn't read what you said to Iye? I just didn't read that link. You basically said "some of the characters had good design, there was a good battle system but it was basically canceled out by everything else" You said the 100 level was the only thing it's good for and basically said the game felt more like a chore.

I'd call that making the game sound bad, I made a joking comment about it, and you basically said fuck you to me.
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Sorry, no, selective reading and memory isn't going to work either.

And "it was a joke" is not an all-purpose excuse for any mistake. That ain't gonna fly.

How about if you'd REALLY wanted to argue, you list actual redeaming qualities. Lets hear them. I'm waiting. I bet you LIKED the triforce map quest? C'mon, that was only looking at it in terms of gameplay. Yeah, your right, that would constitute a bad game, but only in the view that gameplay is the defining feature of what makes a game. The plot and presentation were fine. The length is fine too, if we ignore all the cross-water filler(any portion of the game where you don't have to actually be at the controls is bad imo). Even with the filler, it didn't last as long as you would expect, because its next to impossible to die(or even approach death, you get more life from drops than enemy threat ratings can really account for).
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What the hell are you talking about? Selective reading and memory isn't going to work either.

I'm selective reading and memory because I read everything that you said about a game EXCEPT the link to something that wasn't your own personally developed opinion? Do you actually hear what your saying? You made negative comments, negative comments make you think negative things. If I said you smell like a horse's ass, you'd take it as me saying you stink, I may not have used the word stink, but my words implied it.

Dude I made a small joke about your guys comment, you made an asshole comment, when I explained when I went by greatest game of this generation, you basically told me that my opinion insulted you and then you basically said I'm not interested in games. Rather then just admit you're apart of the minority who dislikes the game (which is alright, no one says you can't dislike it, just don't deny most people do) you basically said the reviews were crappy and that now we know the game sucks.


What did I like about the game? Well lets see, I felt that the graphics were amazing, I thought the audio was great, I thought the controls were responsive and the camera easy to control and nonfrustrating, I found the gameplay fun, I foudn the boss battles fun, I found all that stuff fun, the only thing I didn't find fun was floating on the leaf at some parts, plus the trioforce quest and those were short portions of the game. Also yes the sailing wasn't the greatest experience in the world, but it did what it was suppose to, make you feel like a bigger part of a world, there are other games that use similiar tactics, Morrowind for example.

Dude seriously, I liked the game, IGN liked it, Gamespy did, Gamespot did, Game Informer did, my friends did, EGM did, over 50 reviewers gave it an average of 95%, quit acting like their opinion is wrong or doesn't exist. No one is saying that you can't dislike the game, I'm just saying don't act like it's crazy to like the game and that it's not a popular game when it clearly is.
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