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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,151 Views)
Notty
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X's second Buster has the red balls as well...
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Wow... Pokemon Mystery Dungeon takes a rather... dark turn a bit in...
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Notty,Sep 26 2006
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X's second Buster has the red balls as well...

but only on the second part of the shot.
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No, he means that someone turns the lights off. That or an Arbok gets decapitated like in the manga.
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Juron Pilo,Sep 26 2006
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Notty,Sep 26 2006
07:44 PM
X's second Buster has the red balls as well...

but only on the second part of the shot.

Yeah, but X's single Buster + second Buster > Zx's single Buster.

EDIT: And I need to play more of Mystery Dungeon...my Eevee/Torchic team was super fun to play.
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But you see my point? If we're talking pure potential here you either settle for X's less powerfull but much more reliable combo of shots, or you use Z's hard to aim, but quicker and more powerfull shots. Or you just use an element weakness if one is present, but meh. At any rate, I don't think hitting with the red part of the shot is easy enough to be of siginificant note. What sucks is the underpoweredness of the Z-Saber(although imo the spin attack is worth the price of entry on this one). Is that a version difference between US and Jap, perhaps?

edit: oh, and as far as Zero's usability per running around, I point you to the green blastie/saber combo I use. Suprisingly effective, and quick to charge, which I like.
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Well...MMZ1 and MMZ2 had the Spin attack, and with the uber Z-saber, it was brutal as hell.

Probably why they removed it from Z3 and Z4.

So...they gave it back because they weakened the Saber this time around, I guess.
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Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Fx's buster nearly matches the Z-Saber spin attack when used against those box enemies btw(you fight them again on the road somewhere or something). Its really pretty good.

I'd say X, Hx, Zx, Fx are all well balanced. Lx just has nothing particularly special going for her, and Px just sucks overall(sorry Px).
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Well, Lx has those areas where you're *required* to use her, and she's pretty damn good underwater.

And Px can butcher anything that's not a sub/boss...

And of course, you don't even know about the bonus Biometal...
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Yes I do. Its insane. Overpowered even. I just havn't bothered to mention it.

edit: PX does nearly as good a job butchering small enemies as everyone else, but suffers from that damn lack of upwards aim, and difficulty even doing decent damage to low flying enemies, or enemies down a slope or anything.
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Heh heh.

It is rather broken. Though a little hard to control.
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Also, your not really required to use Lx I don't think. Humans float to the surface of water, so quick change back and forth can get you through.
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But...

Why bother with Human form when Lx can just move through effortlessly?
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Don't bother :P.

edit: Actually, I think its partly a matter of design that Lx doesn't OWN all the other units. Consider: while on a wall she has instant recovery with her spear. So does Zero, but its less pronounced. Hx too, but its even less pronounced. Give her a completely vertical level, and she'll mop the floor.

edit2: ok, after testing this factor of her character some more, I can see why she wasn't made stronger. Next to a wall she is GODLY.
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Yeah, they should make one of those "perpetually fall until you kill the boss" fights."

I'd *like* to use Lx more often, but she's only marginally useful. The Item Finder is nice for subquests, though.
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She's powerfull, she just needs a wall or some water really.
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Ack! I thought I was done with battle calculations! But was clearly horribly, horribly wrong!

It's the sodding standard attacks that keep messing it up for me. With the system I had, it really didn't matter much what weapon was equipped, as it would add something really small to the standard hit.

Time to change tactics on this... Maybe the demo won't be done this week after all.
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To change gears from completely ripping out the innards of Zx and finding how it ticks:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/735/735597p1.html
Weeeeee more consoles.
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