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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,144 Views)
Cyrus
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Hells yeah, I still got it.

First time playing SSBM in a while, at least against anyone who's played before (tried to convert my heathen roomate who sucks at consoles), and I owned.

...now, just have to form a school organization and rent out the theater and have a smash bros tourney on the silver screen. That would be awesome.
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demener
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Sony is getting Oblivion for PS3 and an Oblivion like game for PSP.

This would be good news for them if everyone who wanted the game didn't already have it.
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White Meteo
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umm.... what?
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Gnarl
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What the eff?

An... RTS... On the 360?

Ha ha ha ha ha! Oh Microsoft, your stupid antics never cease to amuse me. You can't make an RTS for a Console.
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White Meteo
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I hope they prove you wrong, FZ.
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Gnarl
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Silly Red, I'm never wrong.

And anytime I am wrong is really your feeble mind unable to cope with when I'm right.

Besides, Halo has like 2 units and three vehicles for each side. That does not a game make. Now, if they make it some sort of FPS/RTS combo like Savage, THAT could be interesting...
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It will suck...
But it will also sell.

Halo has become the FF of the FPS genre. Slap its name on something and BAM insta sales.
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Gnarl,Sep 29 2006
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What the eff?

An... RTS... On the 360?

Ha ha ha ha ha! Oh Microsoft, your stupid antics never cease to amuse me. You can't make an RTS for a Console.

What about the DS?
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The Turn-Based Advance Wars games don't count.

Unless there's something else on the DS. I don't own one.
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Lost Magic. good RTS elements.
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Juron Pilo
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There are in fact several low profile RTS games for the DS. Age of Empires comes to mind.
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The stylus is a good replacement for the D-pad. It's on par with using a mouse on the PC.

If the Halo game had some sort of mouse support, then I retract my statement. The main problem with Console RTSes is the lack of a quick tool for selecting and commanding armies. You need something with both precision (Selecting specific units, activating special powers) and speed (When one power can mean the difference between winning a skirmish and losing it, speed is of the essence). The Stylus and Touch-Screen can pull that off, a D-pad and buttons cannot.
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Oddly enough I can actually agree with FZ on this. The tactical battles in Suikoden V were really annoying in that respect... that system needed a lot of work, tho'.
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Juron Pilo
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I would argue that due to the simplicity and familiarity of the movement, styluses are actually BETTER than mouses for RTS control.
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mordain,Sep 29 2006
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Oddly enough I can actually agree with FZ on this.

So wait, it's odd to agree with me on something? Thanks a lot, your support is appreciated. :P

And actually, I retract my statement. I still think the Halo RTS is going to suck, but as for Console RTSes in general if they had some sort of mouse support it would help a lot.

EDIT: Debatable. Depends on the complexity of the RTS.
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Gnarl,Sep 29 2006
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mordain,Sep 29 2006
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Oddly enough I can actually agree with FZ on this.

So wait, it's odd to agree with me on something? Thanks a lot, your support is appreciated. :P

And actually, I retract my statement. I still think the Halo RTS is going to suck, but as for Console RTSes in general if they had some sort of mouse support it would help a lot.

No, I meant mostly that I've got so little experience with any sort of RTS system that normally I'd have nothing to say at all on the subject. :P

And styluses are probably better, although it's mostly because people learn to use a pen before they learn to use a mouse.

...or they used to. Who knows anymore.
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You could preset button combos for units and attack types.
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I have enough trouble remembering all the units I have linked for Quick Selection (I usually have my Main Group button for mass attacks, and then I have quick selected other groups like Infantry, Vehicles, Artillery, Special Units, and usually a secondary group I use to flank foes, which changes depending on the game obviously), adding specific buttons that specific groups use would be a bit beyond my level of complexity.

EDIT: I prefer typing to writing, and thus tend to be better with a mouse then with a pen in matters, so it all is a matter of practice and preference.
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I hear MS is coming out with some sort of controller/mouse just for RTS games.
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I think Nintendo is rubbing off on them alittle.

And I cant think of anything more plausible than a FPS/RTS, if it has that it will kick ass, if not....GOOD HELL WHAT WERE YOU IDIOTS THINKING!?
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