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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (231,096 Views)
Terra Drake
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Because Goku was a "Hi, I'm the hero" story. He was dull and stale, and honestly, kinda an idiot. Vegeta, on the other hand, he had a story of redemption. Of a man touched by the love of the woman that nursed him back to help, a man who cared for nothing suddenly finding himself with something that really, truly mattered with him. Goku's was the story of random heroics. Vegeta's was a tale of redemption and a testament that a man can change, that even a murderous villain can become a hero.
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Like how he let himself be controlled by Babebi and let Buu escape?
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babebi?

I thought there was a "d" somewhere in there...
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Babedi. It's easy to remember. Just think of Cinderella. Bibidi, Babedi, Buu.

EDIT: That was a moment of weakness on a matter of pride. And I think his sacrifice at the end of that more than speaks for itself.
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Yeah, that and when Gohan transformed into SSJ2 were the most emotional moments of the show.
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Drekal,Apr 22 2005
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I've seen about the same of dragonball as Terra has.


The new Starfox game is due here soon. My brother(who has Lylat Wars talent on loan from God) is interested in buying. Any good?

I heard the flying levels were awesome, and the ground levels, not so much.

And it's majorly ground levels.
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That's a shame. Neil is really looking forward to it.
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Drekal,Apr 22 2005
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Yeah, that and when Gohan transformed into SSJ2 were the most emotional moments of the show.

*nods* Yes. It's a shame that he let his mother make him too weak to fight on the same level as the others anymore. He could have been a serious contender in a Vegeta-Goku-Gohan triangle, rather than just falling back to the bottom while Goku and Vegeta kept at it. That's a part of why I stopped liking Gohan.

"Well, I'm the most powerful fighter, and Dad's gone, so the fate of the world will be pretty much in my hands if something happens again."
"Oh, no you don't. You study. Forget fighting."
"Yes, mother. *lets all that power go to waste*"
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He wasn't a fighter at heart.
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Few are. Doesn't stop them from being prepared to protect their loved ones in the event of an emergency. He was the strongest fighter there was at the time. By letting that wane and die, he endangered every person he cared about.
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Yeah, I see the logic there, but I think the creators were going on the idea that Goku was the whole reason the Earth was in danger in the first place...

Though as it turned out, Goku came back, just in time to save the world.

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Yes, but if I recall correctly, it was supposed to end after Cell, but the fans wanted more and they saw a chance to profit, so they totally undid the "Finale" they set up to give the fans what they wanted.
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Gohan was supossed to take over for Goku. But fans resisted and Toriyama was forced to contrive him back into the comic.
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And from that terrible mistake, GT was born.

Although....Gt did give us the Don Paro bros. :D
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Looked like it was meant to end after Frieza. >_>

Then it looked like it was meant to end after Cell. >_>

Then it looked like it was meant to end after Buu. >_>

...wait, fans actually WANTED Goku to come back and be "Yar, look at me, I'm all that matters" again? >_< I HATED that! How nothing ever, EVERY worked until they turned to Goku to save everyone. Every fight, every clash, everything that wasn't Goku defeating the opponent was just stalling for time until Goku got there to defeat the opponent. It sickened me! Why would ANYONE want that back?!
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Yeah, the Frieza saga pulled that off the best out of all of them.
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Yes, that it did. The great enemy was destroyed, Goku had fulfilled the legends and become a Super Saiyan, Goku had sacrificed his life to finally end Frieza's dark reign, etc. etc. That battle was the explosive climax of the series.
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And then they bring in Garlic Jr....The single worst saga in the entire series.
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Weren't the Garlic Jr ones movies? Terrible movies at that?

I saw three movies. World's Finest was good, Tree of Life I didn't see because the cable went out, and Deadzone sucked... This was a long time ago when Carton Network was showing them...
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Heh. I saw the Japanese version of one of the later movies with subtitles...

At one point Vegeta goes "You fucking bastard! How dare you destroy my fucking house!"
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