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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,941 Views)
Juron Pilo
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I'm telling you, theres two ways to hit it. Either by clicking the eyeballss(like I did the first few times, now THAT was an endurance test), or by doing the tap-as-it-teleports-then-hit-it-with-kirby-trick. The second helps SO MUCH.
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well yes, that is true.... But the places they are used are logical.... The mechanic they have set up works really well
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But, like... you can't use Bat-Shurikens in combat...

EDIT: JP, I do both at the same time. Those aren't mutually exclusive strategies...
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MechaV
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Bat-arangs, damn it.
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Juron Pilo
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Bah, I still say the final boss isn't that hard once u know what to do. It's tedius at first because it has so much hp but once u know how to really hurt it he's not that difficult.

Edit: never said they were.
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MechaV,Jul 14 2005
11:50 PM
Bat-arangs, damn it.

No. Batarangs are the ones that come back. Bat-shurikens are the ones that stick in people.
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MechaV
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The Batman wouldn't do that.
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LuppyLuptonium
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um, batman doesn't kill...... I think they are mostly blunt anyway......
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LuppyLuptonium,Jul 15 2005
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um, batman doesn't kill...... I think they are mostly blunt anyway......

THE Batman.
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I think they're for pinning guys to the wall by their clothes.

Or disarming them.

It looked pretty sharp when he threw it into the wall in the movie.
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Oh, they're sharp.. And not curved at all, it's all straight edges.
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And so, with his 14-Day Free Trial about to run out, the The Courageous Dr. Immortalis gives his final assessment of City of Heroes before fragging his character.

Pros:
Twenty guys? Piece of cake: This game does a kickass job of making you actually feel heroic. From level one, you're trashing street thugs, battling Clockwork minions, and taking down Vahzilok cadavers. The first ten levels can be done in one day with a little effort, immediatly opening up a wide variety of powers, letting you trash foes with style. By level 14, you get a Travel Power, which is both cool and massivly helpful. You get capes, and new costumes, Auras, titles, and all sorts of stuff to add to your heroic legacy.

Only a Hero can save us: Not only do you feel like A hero, you feel like THE hero. As you complete missions, people on the streets congratulate you and talk about your deeds. Missions can be done solo, making you feel like one ass-kicker, cleaning up the mean streets. Even simply wandering around, mobs don't just stand around waiting for someone to come along and kill them, they do stuff. Council troopers stand on the street, recruiting new soldiers. Vahzilok are attacking and killing people to add to their undead hordes. Clockwork are busily constructing new clockwork troops. Thugs everywhere are extorting citizens and robbing people, so when you dash off to the rescue and the citizens thank you afterwards, you feel cool and heroic.

Gotta catch em' all: Even with all the regular stuff to do, there is always side things that can be done. Namely: Badges. Badges can be awarded for many reasons, and while most of them have no real use, it's fun to collect them. You get them for going to new places, for defeating numbers of monsters, for completing Trials and Task Forces, and more. If you collect certain sets of badges, some of them actually DO give you a bonus, like more Endurance or Health. Even if you just collect them to collect them, they can give you neat little bonus titles, which can be a cool way of displaying certain missions or difficult challanges you've completed. Also you can go on one-man storylines, and earn Souvenirs to remind you of some of the adventures you've been on. Even without the blowing-stuff-up factor, there's plenty to do.

It's time to kick ass and chew gum... And I'm all outta' gum...: For the first time ever, battles aren't boooooring. In most MMORPGs, battle can be described as "Click enemy, start whacking, stop whacking when dead, repeat, ad infinitum". You could literally start an attack, and just walk away if you wanted, and come back to find the enemy dead, or you dead. Here, battles are changing free-for-alls that require you pay attention. You can combine powers to set up combos that are devestating in the right order, you can end up in running firefights as you dodge out of range of some foes while whittling down others, and Boss fights are some of the most hectic, frantic battles I've ever been in.

Grr... Rrr... CRUNK HEAD HURT: There's no crafting. Ever. 'Nuff said.

I believe I can fly: You can fly! Flying is, quite possibly, the coolest part of the game. However, the other travel powers are nifty to, and really help to eliminate the "Miles long trek to the Mission Point" sensation some games leave you with. There's nothing I hated more in AO then having to spend thirty minutes running to a mission point in the middle of fucking nowhere, to do a mission that won't give me a lot of XP, Credit, or even a good item reward. And everyone can get a travel power at Level 14, which makes life oh so much better. In fact, you can almost describe CoH as having two periods: Pre-Travel Power, and Post-Travel Power.

What? I don't have anything in my pockets: There's also no inventory management to worry about. You get a certain number of Insperation slots that go up with time, a certain number of Enhancement slots that never goes up, and that's it. It's a beautiful system...

I'm loving this cape, it's absolutely luscious: Last, but definitly not least: Character creation. This game has such an awsome and fun Character Creator, you can literally have fun just making new characters, and never using them. Ever. Sometimes if I just wanted to spend a little time, I'd hop on, make a character or two, and hop off. It's THAT fun. As a side benafit, everyone has a chance to look just as badass or retarded as they want, right from the word go without having to pick up a single nick-knack or buy a single trinket. It's a thing of utter beauty...

Cons:
You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn: The accuracy system is, in a word, whacked. No matter how high you go, or how much accuracy you slot, missing targets is a painfully common occurance. Battles can be extended simply by the fact that you'll miss a near-dead, green target (Two levels below you, thus very weak) a half-dozen times in a row, with no explenation. On the flipside...

That shot was impossible: Every enemy hits you. Always. It doesn't matter what steps you take to avoid it, you will always get blasted by everything sent your way. Where as 1/5 of your shots miss, 1/100 of their shots miss. And since they never miss, you die quite a bit, and you build up...

But you said the card had only 4% interest: Debt! You will die, a lot (At least as a blaster) and when you die you get debt. Now, it's not the worst system in the world, but it IS annoying as hell. In the long term it can slow you down drastically, expecially as you get higher and higher and it takes more and more XP to advance, so every ounce of XP taken by debt slows you down noticably.

Heroes don't take public transportation: The Pre-Level 14 Travel Power game is sloooooow. Getting to mission points is painfully slow. Getting to Tram points is painfully slow. Getting from Point A to Point B anywhere is painfully slow. Get ready to walk for 15-45 minutes, possibly through territory infested with Purple Enemies (4 or more levels higher then you, aka Unkillable) just to get to a mission point when the REAL fight begins.

And so, Dr. Immortalis' final suggestion?

City of Heroes: Excellent, excellent game. And I never even got to the cool, higher level content! The first MMORPG I ever thought was worth it.
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So you getting it? (I am still pissed i cannot play it)
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Eventually. Not immediatly, though.

I'm going to wait for Release 5 to come out, and for City of Villains to come out, so it'll be a few months.
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Your complaints are valid, FZ, but I can honestly say that the accuracy one... well, I NEVER have that problem.... Every one of my powers has an accuracy enhancement on, so I miss infrequently, and... well, I may die and get hit a lot, but still :P
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Even when I had two Accuracy Training Enhancements on in the early game, it never seemed to increase my hit rate. However, ever since I've first been able to get Dual-Origin Enhancements, I never tried again, and those boost my Attack power considerably... Maybe now is the time to give Accuracy enhancements another shot.

I am going to have it for about one more day however, and I plan to use that to beat Dr. Vahzilok once and for all (I have the storyline going right now that ends up with you fighting Dr. Vahzilok at the end.)
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Sweet. That's a great ending...
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I haven't beaten it yet, I'm licking my wounds, but Round 1 of Dr. Immortalis vs Dr. Vahzilok.

Dr. I: Wooo, I am TOTALLY owning this mission. Take that, zomboids!
Minions: BLARG, WE R DEAD... AGAIN.
Dr. I: Ha ha! Nothing can stop me now... Holy cow, is that Dr. Vahzilok? Dang, he's huge!
Dr. V: Hmm, good day sir, I am the esteemed Dr. Vahzilok, and despite the fact that I look like some hideous aborted attempt at combining Frankenstein's Monster and Clayface, I speak the English language with a much greater capability and understanding then most of the New Players of this world shall ever achieve.
Noobs: OMG STFU!
Dr. I: Hmm, he's not only Purple, but an Arch-Villain? Of COURSE I can take him on single handedly! Eat Flame, you ugly bastard!
*Unleashes every attack in his arsenal when maxed out on Insperations. HP bar barely moves.*
Dr. V: Hmm, I do believe those explosions and fireballs singed my stiches, you cad. My turn.
*Dr. Vahzilok looks at Dr. Immortalis funny. Dr. Immortalis spontaneously combusts.*
Dr. I: Ow, my organs! *Dies*

This is only a minor setback. I KNOW I can beat him next time...

EDIT: I realized that I would have to gain a ridiculous number of levels just to equal Dr. Vahzilok in a battle, said "Screw it" and finished the mission which didn't TECHNICALLY reqiure beating him, but I wanted to anyway...

And it WAS an excellent storyline, probably the best one so far. Dr. Vahzilok is a very interesting enemy...
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GAWD.... I was motherfucking OWNED first three times I went against him... finally put together a team and totally got owned :P
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That definatly says something about how good you are at planning things, Mike. :P
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