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Games and Stuff; Gaming talk, and so forth...
Topic Started: Oct 18 2004, 05:49 AM (230,765 Views)
mordain
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Quima didn't have a gender. They called it s/he the whole game...
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I don't think Strategy games count as much since you can create an army of characters. Plus even in Strategy games it tends to be true. In FFT and Disgaea, Ramza and Laharl tended to be my strongest characters...
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9 was acceptable, and I liked it better than 7 or 8.

Mainly because the main character didn't make me want to kill him.

However, it ended up suffering from the same thing as most RPGs. 9 was the RPG where I realized that I was growing sick of them.

"Lah-dee-dah, I'm walkin' around. Now I'm battlin'. Back to walkin'. And now we have plot.

"... Enough of that. We want the players to have enough time walkin' around and scrollin' through their battle menus."

... UGH. I'll take it for some games, like Third Age, and Mario does very good at making a battle system that's something more, but UGH. I cannot stand much more of that BULLSHIT. Hell, I can't even tolerate it for KOTOR. You're not really an action RPG, because it's still a battle menu I scroll through!

Sorry. It's out of line. 9 was a decent RPG.
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You must never have gotten Cid in FFT, then.

And in FE, the Lords are ALWAYS outclassed by the other units you get. Although that tradition's been on the decline since FE7...
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Uh... do spell lists and item lists count as 'scrolling through battle menus'...?
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Newb,Oct 31 2005
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EDIT: and before anybody mentions the marraige scene, consider this: the point was that it was supposed to be awkward.  a character we're not even sure is alive and an androgenous chef getting married is hilarious

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On the subject of X, Wakka's the real powerhouse of the party, not Auron. Auron starts off amazing, but by the time everyone reaches the end of their main path, Wakka is dealing more damage than the rest of the party combined. @.@ That man is scary powerful. And coupled with his Attack Reels...my Wakka beat the final boss with one technique.
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mordain,Oct 30 2005
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Uh... do spell lists and item lists count as 'scrolling through battle menus'...?

... I would say yes, and am curious as to what you mean.
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If you did any amount of preparation, then FFX's final boss was a joke....

EDIT: Clarification.
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I think she means KH
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MFD,Oct 30 2005
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mordain,Oct 30 2005
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Uh... do spell lists and item lists count as 'scrolling through battle menus'...?

... I would say yes, and am curious as to what you mean.

SO3. The battle system is real-time, but if you want to cast a spell or use an item, the fight pauses while you pick what you want to use.
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Haven't played KH. But it strikes me as having a similar system to KOTOR.

EDiT: OK. I guess. Just one thing. Does pressing a button mean that you perform the action, or does pressing a button mean that you confirm the action?

See, I like Command Mission, because each action was set to a different button. It was at least SOMETHING different!
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No, 9 just sucked.

I just stopped caring. Not about RPGs in general, just about 9. I eventually realized me telling myself "Why am I playing this?" and I could find no reason at all. I didn't care about any of them anymore. They were tedious and annoying and made me wish that they would all die. They were the worst characters ever spawned in the history of FF.

To put this in perspective, 8 had a horrible plot. It made no sense, contained outright dumb plot twists, and the leveling system was totally fucked. I still like it more then 9.
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It doesn't, MFD.

Kingdom Hearts is real-time. KOTOR is turn-based (albeit behind the scenes).

EDIT: Damn FZ, you didn't even like *Vivi*? I didn't know it was possible to not like Vivi!
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MFD,Oct 31 2005
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Haven't played KH. But it strikes me as having a similar system to KOTOR.

nope, you run and jump around to get good angles in KH.
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MFD,Oct 30 2005
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EDiT: OK. I guess. Just one thing. Does pressing a button mean that you perform the action, or does pressing a button mean that you confirm the action?

See, I like Command Mission, because each action was set to a different button. It was at least SOMETHING different!

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No, 9 just sucked.

I just stopped caring. Not about RPGs in general, just about 9. I eventually realized me telling myself "Why am I playing this?" and I could find no reason at all. I didn't care about any of them anymore. They were tedious and annoying and made me wish that they would all die. They were the worst characters ever spawned in the history of FF.

To put this in perspective, 8 had a horrible plot. It made no sense, contained outright dumb plot twists, and the leveling system was totally fucked. I still like it more then 9.

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I thought Tidus Zidane was a breath of fresh air. I can see how he's not everyone's cup of tea, but still.

And Vivi was also a good character to have. I also liked Freya and Steiner to lesser degrees.

Amarant and Quina I could care less about, and Dagger was the obnoxious princess I always hate.

... It saddens me that there's another character, who isn't important enough for me to remember... oh. Eiko.

Eh. Throw her in with Amarant and Quina.
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You mean Zidane, right? :P
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... Yes.

Oh, dear GOD yes.

Apologies.
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