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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 06:40 AM Post #16361 |
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Um... Echoes reveals that the pirates have off world bases. Just destroying their home planet isn't enough to declare that the pirates as a whole have been destroyed. As for the revenge thing... um... far be it for me to dictate plot points to you. Edit: Heck most of the games take place off the pirates home world. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 06:43 AM Post #16362 |
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If you're talking about the fanwanked "Samus's home was destroyed by Space Pirates when she was a little girl", as far as I am aware this was never canon. |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 06:44 AM Post #16363 |
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I can neither verify or discount that plotpoint, so I'm benching that question. Edit: Speculating on it, I think that plotpoint came from the comic series that was run in Nintendo Power. It may or may not be supported by the in game plot, we'd have to check instruction booklets and stuff to determine. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 06:47 AM Post #16364 |
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It's hard to see past the common perception and remember that just because a lot of people think it's true, doesn't mean it's canon. For example, many people believe that Mario and Luigi are plumbers from New York or Brooklyn or wherever. |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 06:50 AM Post #16365 |
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Its not that, I just wasn't going to dismiss it as non-canon so easily. This falls under "you can't prove a negative" rule. The methods for testing if something doesn't exist involve isolating it, which in this case would mean collecting all Metroid canon and then determining it nowhere to be found withing the canon, something I'm not particularly prepared to do at this late hour. Edit: Still, I'm confident that I've found the true origin of the storyline and satisfied the conclusion that it is indeed non-canon. |
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| Immolation | Jan 31 2006, 06:55 AM Post #16366 |
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I think that was covered in a few research and lore logs in MP1. I'll have to check though. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 06:56 AM Post #16367 |
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Taken from the manual of Metroid, for NES. >.> I think they call her a "he" because it was supposed to be a surprise, as suggested by "his true form is shrouded in mystery". Nobody knew it was a 'she' at the time, and apparently she doesn't care enough to correct them. But anyways...she didn't go to Zebes for revenge, or on her own. She was arbitrarily chosen to go down to the planet's surface and wage war. No mention, not even a suggestion of revenge, is ever given. |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 06:56 AM Post #16368 |
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I'm pretty sure the space pirates reference "The Hunter's" single minded hatred of them in echoes too, come to think of it. She's a bounty hunter. She got paid to do it. Just because it was her job doesn't mean she didn't like it. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 06:59 AM Post #16369 |
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Of course she liked it. She's a bounty hunter. You don't become a successful bounty hunter by being queesy about the job. The best are those that enjoy it. And that is one of many reasons why it's really hard to build more to her character without diminishing her. She's a hardcore bounty hunter. |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 07:02 AM Post #16370 |
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I'm merely saying the two motivations arn't mutually exclusive. She CAN be a bounty hunter who works for the federation AND have an unnatural hatred for pirates which lead to her working for the federation killing pirates. But yeah, we've tangented. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 07:03 AM Post #16371 |
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Okay. And I've forgotten the point. |
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| MFD | Jan 31 2006, 02:58 PM Post #16372 |
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THIEF!
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In Metroid Prime, there certainly was reference made in Chozo Lore to the Chozo finding the Hatchling after a Pirate attack. As for a romantic subplot involving ADAM, I just don't see it! |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 08:07 PM Post #16373 |
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Really? Huh...I'll have to run through that one again. |
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| Knight | Jan 31 2006, 08:10 PM Post #16374 |
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Really? I could have sworn that it was referenced in Fusion... |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 08:28 PM Post #16375 |
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I think he means in terms of Samus actually needing a romantic subplot. Or, if he doesn't, I DO. |
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| Knight | Jan 31 2006, 08:33 PM Post #16376 |
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Ahh. Alright, that I can see. It's certainly not necissary in the least. But as it was only really mentioned in passing in a flashback, I don't see it detracting much, if any from the game. |
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| femmesimonbelmont | Jan 31 2006, 08:36 PM Post #16377 |
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you know you love it.
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Samus needs a romantic subplot like the chozos need to be allegoried to angels... oh wait....! |
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| MFD | Jan 31 2006, 08:48 PM Post #16378 |
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THIEF!
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No, Samus just liked Malkovich because he respected her, and always asked her if her orders were OK, and always called her Lady without being sarcastic... I don't remember anything about them being more than commander/soldier. |
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| Alan Bates | Jan 31 2006, 09:29 PM Post #16379 |
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Transcendent
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I'm almost positive they've referenced that in an instruction book. |
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| MechaV | Jan 31 2006, 09:53 PM Post #16380 |
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I like the theory they were born in the Mushroom Kingdom, but sent to Brookyln at a young age to protect them from the Koopas. ...before we realized that they were incompotent. |
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