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| ryu planeswalker | Jan 31 2006, 09:57 PM Post #16381 |
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yet he keeps managing to actually kidnapp the princess and get 8 worlds between himself and mario |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 09:58 PM Post #16382 |
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No mention of them coming from another world, and the general feeling, that Mario just heard about it and set out to help the people, suggests he's a denizen of their world. |
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| MechaV | Jan 31 2006, 10:00 PM Post #16383 |
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That's what the first arcade Mario Bros. is about. Mario and Luigi, plumbers, stumble upon the Warp Zone to the Mushroom Kingdom deep beneath the city. That's where all the koopas and clawgrips were coming from. That's how I always thought of it though.
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 10:01 PM Post #16384 |
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Also, take into consideration the fact that, according to Yoshi's Island, they were born in the Mushroom World. >.> Unless we have Yoshis in our world. |
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| MechaV | Jan 31 2006, 10:03 PM Post #16385 |
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Like I said, taken out of the Mushroom Kingdom at a young age, but destined to return! Little shock to the denizens of the Mushroom Kingdom, expecting a mighty warrior and getting a fat, greasy plumber. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 10:04 PM Post #16386 |
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Considering that the stork was delivering them to their parents, and that route required him to be in Mushroom World, that suggests the parents are also in Mushroom World. Unless he just likes taking unnecessary scenic tours in dangerous lands. |
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| MechaV | Jan 31 2006, 10:05 PM Post #16387 |
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I'm basing all this on a write-up someone did in an attempt to bring continuity to the Mario series. Basically yes, BORN in the Mushroom Kingdom and delivered to parents in the Mushroom Kingdom, but moved to the real world LATER. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 11:06 PM Post #16388 |
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The Mario series has plenty of continuity. With the exception of the edutainment games, Mario is Missing and Mario's Time Machine, I can't recall the Mario Bros. having any adventures in the real world. And those, they only got there via Bowser traveling there. So why does it even need to be involved in their continuity? The only reference I'm aware of for plumbers from Brooklyn is the Super Mario Bros. live action movie. But I don't think Bowser's a Tyrannosaurus Rex either. |
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| ShadowWarriorLuke | Jan 31 2006, 11:10 PM Post #16389 |
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They went to Brooklyn several times in the Mario 3 cartoons. I also recall a couple of episodes in the original Super Show where they're trying to get back to Brooklyn. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 11:11 PM Post #16390 |
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The cartoons are about as canon as the live action movie. EDIT: See MegaMan cartoon for reference of my point. |
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| Alan Bates | Jan 31 2006, 11:14 PM Post #16391 |
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Intrestingly enough, the Mario cartoon is where just about all the characterization for Luigi actually comes from. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 11:15 PM Post #16392 |
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Canon material may borrow ideas from less-canon sources. That doesn't mean the entire source is canon. Just that they had an idea. For example, the characterization of Luigi may come from the Mario cartoon, but I have yet to see any of Link or Zelda's characterization from their own cartoon be implemented in canon. |
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| ShadowWarriorLuke | Jan 31 2006, 11:17 PM Post #16393 |
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I know. But a lot of sources seem to give Brooklyn as a point of origin. Come to think of it, the CYOA books and the comics do too (again, not really canon but yeah). I think it's just a case that a lot of people have accepted it rather than questioning it. I was confused at Yoshi's Island's ending myself whn I saw them being "born" in the Mushroom Kingdom. EDIT: Baron'd. You people type too fast. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 11:19 PM Post #16394 |
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That's because the Brooklyn idea is an interesting one, that those who are not the game authors look at and go "Y'know, I would think that's a lot more interesting". Like giving Samus romantic interests towards Captain N in the Captain N comic. But that doesn't make it canon. The comics, the cartoons, the movies, all of it. No matter how much people like the ideas that come from them, they will still never be anything more than highly publicized fanfiction. |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 11:30 PM Post #16395 |
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Um... but it does have canonical basis. Like they said, the original game Mario Brothers takes place in the sewers under brooklyn, as part of that plumber job. The monsters Mario was fighting in Mario Bros are escapees from the Mushroom Kingdom using the same warp zone Mario and Luigi used to travel to the Mushroom Kingdom(well, I assume its the same one, but thats irrelevent). As for the who Mario World 2 thing, thats just a plot hole and has nothing to do with canon. Canon doesn't have to make sense, just look at the Megaman/X timeline. Edit: See this is why I hate canon. Its too easily confused with a good old fashioned plot hole, and there are shades of grey as far as canonical material. Edit2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario Edit3: Anyways, I think Mario Bros takes canonical precedence over spin off Yoshi's Island. Considering how difficult it would be to fit Yoshi 64 in canon anyways, it would be much better to consider the whole Yoshi series as a parallel universe. |
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| Terra Drake | Jan 31 2006, 11:48 PM Post #16396 |
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What's wrong with the Megaman/X timeline? |
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| MFD | Jan 31 2006, 11:49 PM Post #16397 |
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Luigi was a coward in the cartoon, too? |
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| Juron Pilo | Jan 31 2006, 11:50 PM Post #16398 |
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I have to pick one thing? |
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| Notty | Jan 31 2006, 11:51 PM Post #16399 |
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On the subject of the Mario-Brooklyn thing... What about Donkey Kong? Didn't THAT take place in Brooklyn? EDIT: Also, the X timeline gets even MORE wonky when you add Megaman Zero into the mix. Ending of X6 anyone? |
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| MechaV | Jan 31 2006, 11:52 PM Post #16400 |
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If I remember correctly, he was. Also, he still had a problem being overshadowed by his bro. |
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