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| #618 Actually Mr. Sartre, it’s Other Nerds | |
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| Ti-Phil | Apr 10 2010, 06:46 PM Post #21 |
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While the death star versus Enterprise is a nice fight, I'm more interested in who will die first, the random storm trooper (which, I might remind you, is supposed to know how to shoot but when faced with a protagonist, fires blindly) or the random redshirt (which, we know, has 99,9% of chances of dying every time it breathes. |
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| Knight | Apr 10 2010, 06:50 PM Post #22 |
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True. Redshirts die vs mooks on a regular basis. Stormtroopers only die vs. protagonists and teddy bears. |
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| Zap Rowsdower | Apr 10 2010, 07:13 PM Post #23 |
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Redshirts don't always die. If they get themselves a name, like Miles O'Brian or Reginald Barclay they become invincible. |
| "Be polite; write diplomatically; even in a declaration of war one observes the rules of politeness." - Otto von Bismarck | |
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| Zero Spectrem | Apr 10 2010, 07:35 PM Post #24 |
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Um, there was an episode in TNG where it was kind of like Death Star verses The Enterprise. You know, the episode where they find Mr. Scotty trapped in a wrecked ship stuck in a transporter beam. Yeah, the enterprise technically lost that one, but the 'death star' didn't win either. So this whole thing is a moot point. Also, I predict those two guards dying in some horrible fashion of Alex's choosing. |
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| Alphawolf55 | Apr 10 2010, 07:51 PM Post #25 |
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Unless Alex convinces them to let them out and have them join. |
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<img src="http://i1.endoftheinter.net/i/n/8f19b90f194b8c7e52fc31ec2cbbcb78/cookie monster smile.gif" /> I dare you to look at this and not smile at least a little. | |
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| Iyestorm | Apr 10 2010, 08:23 PM Post #26 |
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Hmm... I wonder if any of the crew on the Enterprise are a fan of bullet hell games? Edit: Prediction time. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Redshirt lived and the Stormtrooper hit something it was aiming at? ...wait, maybe it wouldn't. I forgot which definition of irony she uses. |
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Dr. Wiley has surrendered. Mega Man has saved the planet from destruction. But will it last!!! "Think about it, mate: legends! When has a legend ever not been true, huh? HUH?!" --Marine, Sonic Rush Adventure "Good Morniii--AGH! I can't do it! I don't wanna be cute! I wanna be a boy!" --Ouran High School Host Club; Haruhi's English Voice Actor messing around. | |
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| Alan Bates | Apr 10 2010, 09:29 PM Post #27 |
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By Next Generation time they didn't kill off redshirts nearly as often. You want to look at a guy that defied the odds, look at Scotty. He beamed down with Captain Kirk all the time and ended up outliving the guy and 99% of the Enterprise crew. |
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| steelabjur | Apr 11 2010, 10:13 AM Post #28 |
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Well, Scotty did die once during TOS (second season during "The Changeling"), but he got better. Another thing to consider, if that guy is from TNG Era, he isn't security like in TOS (security wears gold in TNG), but a member of the command division. He could very well be the one in charge.As for Deathstar vs. Enterprise, check out how the Galaxy-classes handle in DS9 "Sacrifice of Angels", or how Kirk's Enterprise resolved the TOS episodes "The Doomsday Machine" (massive automated world-eating WMD with armor able to shrug off phaser fire and photon torpedoes) or "The Immunity Syndrome" (star system eating giant freaking space amoeba!) Hell, put Data in a shuttlecraft and have him do the trench run! a ST shuttlecraft seems to be at least as maneuverable as an X-wing and better protected to boot thanks to it's shields, if Luke could do it with the Force, Data should be able to do it with his greater-than-human skills and reflexes. Heck, he could just deliver an explosive charge right to where it needed to be via transporter rather than shooting it down the tube. |
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| MFD | Apr 11 2010, 01:32 PM Post #29 |
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That was a Dyson Sphere. Totally different. No, really. It wasn't a battlestation. All it had, I think, was the tractor beam that pulled things into it. |
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| Zap Rowsdower | Apr 11 2010, 04:52 PM Post #30 |
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Transporters don't work through defensive shields, and the Death Star has very, very good shields. |
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| Drekal | Apr 11 2010, 04:56 PM Post #31 |
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Ahem.![]() I think we're just about to drive Alex insane.
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That which holds the image of an angel...![]() Amy: You do have a plan, don't you? Doctor: Of course I do! New Objective: Think of a plan. | |
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| Zap Rowsdower | Apr 11 2010, 05:04 PM Post #32 |
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...sorry. This kind of thing tends to happen when the issue is brought up. At least he didn't bring up the Balrog's Wings issue! |
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| Alan Bates | Apr 11 2010, 05:43 PM Post #33 |
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| Darth Sonic 66 | Apr 12 2010, 12:38 AM Post #34 |
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^^^ This. Plus, useing actual weapon power ratings, a single turbolaser can rip right through the Enterprise and it's sheilds like a hot knife through butter (remember picard and crew eyes bugging out when an enemy starship phaser banks had a 400 megewatt power rating? Yeah, I believe the average turbolaser has a power rating exceeding a million megawatts). Your point about plot armor brings up a good point about videoland causality, though... (Oh snap! Videoland causality must be, like, my catch phrase in this nick of the forum!). |
The fact that there exists a context in which this statement makes sense simultaneously reassures and terrifies me... | |
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| Knight | Apr 12 2010, 01:39 AM Post #35 |
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I swear, I'm going to do an injury to the next person trying to debate trek/wars "physics" in this thread. No, really. Done now. |
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| Andrusi | Apr 13 2010, 12:41 PM Post #36 |
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Isn't the normal comparison Enterprise versus a Star Destroyer? Putting it up against the Death Star is silly. Now, Unicron on the other hand... |
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| Atalas | Apr 15 2010, 09:18 PM Post #37 |
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the debate is moot, as its very difficult to imagine even in Videoland. Plus, how else does Alex kill things? With the Scope! I'm just anxciously awaiting the scene from that one video feed Alex's captor has. It's coming up, sooner or later. Though we'll get to the brain-bleaching scene first. |
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| genobait | May 15 2010, 11:25 PM Post #38 |
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Another thing to consider, if that guy is from TNG Era, he isn't security like in TOS (security wears gold in TNG), but a member of the command division. He could very well be the one in charge.



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