A kick to Game Maker's pants.

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A kick to Game Maker's pants.
Topic Started: Jul 29 2008, 01:38 AM (148 Views)
Kafka	Jul 29 2008, 01:38 AM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 307 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: July 3, 2008	To quote the Game Maker manual on 3d: Quote: When you use the 3D functionality, there are a number of other things that can no longer be used. You cannot use background and foregrounds in your rooms anymore. (The reason is that they are tiled to fill the image but with perspective projections this no longer work correctly). You cannot use the mouse position anymore. The mouse will not be transformed to the 3D coordinates. You can still get the position of the mouse on the screen (in the view) but you will have to do calculation with this yourself (or not use the mouse at all). You cannot use tiles anymore. Tiles will most likely no longer match up correctly. Collision checking still uses the 2-d positions of the instances in the room. So there is no collision detection in 3D. Sometimes you can still use this (if you use the room as a representation of a flat world (e.g. for racing or FPS games) but in other situations you have to do things yourself. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2eyjhab&s=4 And, Yeah, in other news, I fixed all the technical junk that was messing up on Vista. So, we no longer have any of those problems.



Naughty Budgie	Jul 29 2008, 02:37 AM Post #2
Archpenguin Posts: 132 Group: Project Members Member #5 Joined: July 6, 2008	One thing that's bugging me is the camera. No seriously. In a 3rd person 3D game, (Sorry, THREE DEE game) the camera should always be behind the characters back, unless the player makes it otherwise.



Absolute Zer0	Jul 29 2008, 05:44 AM Post #3
Penguin Hatchling Posts: 35 Group: Project Members Member #12 Joined: July 7, 2008	The character also seems a little short in that view, but other than that it looks great, good job! Quote: Yeah, in other news, I fixed all the technical junk that was messing up on Vista. So, we no longer have any of those problems. Woot!



Kafka	Jul 29 2008, 07:50 AM Post #4
Administrator Posts: 307 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: July 3, 2008	Naughty Budgie Jul 29 2008, 02:37 AM One thing that's bugging me is the camera. No seriously. In a 3rd person 3D game, (Sorry, THREE DEE game) the camera should always be behind the characters back, unless the player makes it otherwise. What of Paper Mario? Quote: The character also seems a little short in that view, but other than that it looks great, good job! Yeah, that's been changed. That isn't a finalized screenshot of the game, just an example of how I'm punching the rules in the face. Mwahaha!



Naughty Budgie	Jul 31 2008, 06:56 AM Post #5
Archpenguin Posts: 132 Group: Project Members Member #5 Joined: July 6, 2008	Kafka Jul 29 2008, 07:50 AM Naughty Budgie Jul 29 2008, 02:37 AM One thing that's bugging me is the camera. No seriously. In a 3rd person 3D game, (Sorry, THREE DEE game) the camera should always be behind the characters back, unless the player makes it otherwise. What of Paper Mario? Paper Mario wasn't real time. And it was never directly at the camera. Mario would face the side, and walk down. Also, Paper Mario wasn't Real Time. Also, Paper Mario had seperate areas. There is a NEAR INFINITE number of extenuating circumstances that apply to Paper Mario, but not to Dual Dreams.



Kafka	Jul 31 2008, 05:59 PM Post #6
Administrator Posts: 307 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: July 3, 2008	The 3d Tales, the 3d Final Fantasies, the 3d Star Ocean, et al. They didn't have a camera that was always behind the character's back.



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