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Photo of the Day: June 18
Topic Started: Jun 18 2011, 07:17 AM (152 Views)
Scott
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Another Sign. (I know kinda boring) 35!
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No, not boring Scott. I really look forward to a new "photo of the day" each day!
"Stacey: The bird in the café she's a bit up herself but not too bad. Yolande in the shop, she's up herself. She's all right sometimes. Pauline in the launderette, she's a right old dragon and she's up herself. The other one just goes on about God all day. My Nan's a battleaxe. My cousin Mo's all right but my cousin Zoë, wait till you get a load of her."
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You're doing a great job Scott!!!
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Thanks Angie and Velvet, I really enjoy posting them. I'm starting to forget which ones I've already posted!

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Interesting that The West isn't the West End and the West End isn't The West.
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Jill, I think the West means towards the Western part of England and of course the West End, would be just that part of London. I could be wrong, but that's what I suspect.
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I have never understood from EE's opening map, just exactly where the East End and the West End are. Can anyone explain from the map EE gives us? 28!
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Jun 20 2011, 10:50 AM
I have never understood from EE's opening map, just exactly where the East End and the West End are. Can anyone explain from the map EE gives us? 28!
Good question! I didn't know the boundaries really myself, but found this on Wikipedia:

The East End of London, also known simply as the East End, is the area of London, England, east of the medieval walled City of London and north of the River Thames. Although not defined by universally accepted formal boundaries, the River Lea can be considered another boundary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_East_End

Located to the west of the historic Roman and Mediaeval City of London, the West End was long favoured by the rich elite as a place of residence because it was usually upwind of the smoke drifting from the crowded City. It was also located close to the royal seat of power at Westminster, and is largely contained within the City of Westminster (one of the 32 London boroughs). Developed in the seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, it was originally built as a series of palaces, expensive town houses, fashionable shops and places of entertainment. The areas closest to the City around Holborn, Seven Dials and Covent Garden historically contained poorer communities that were cleared and redeveloped in the nineteenth century.
The name "West End" is a flexible term with different meanings in different contexts. It may refer to the entertainment district around Leicester Square and Covent Garden; to the shopping district centred on Oxford Street, Regent Street, and Bond Street; or, less commonly, to the whole of that part of central London (itself an area with no generally agreed boundaries) which lies to the west of the City of London.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_West_End
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Thanks, Scott--lots of information. I've spent several minutes looking through the wikipedia links and further links. I have a better idea of where the East End is now--north of the Thames and east of the old walled city and generally further east to the River Lea, the Bow Creek part emptying into the Thames, and generally in the boroughs of Hackney and Tower Hamlets.

There are some old maps with some info at the links, but I haven't located the River Lea/Bow Creek yet. Once I do that, I'll be able to locate the EE better on the EE episodes map. I'm looking forward to finally being able to do that.
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Can't believe I never asked this...who has been to East London and how does it compare to EastEnders?
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Jul 1 2011, 08:12 AM
Can't believe I never asked this...who has been to East London and how does it compare to EastEnders?
I have been to the East End several times. It didn't remind me of EastEnders at all, but that's not to say there isn't some location similar to Albert Square.

I did visit Spitafields Market:

Spitafields

As well as the Ten Bells Pub (on the Jack the Ripper walking tour I took)

Ten Bells Pub

I've also been by St. Mary-le-Bow church, where it is said:

"St Mary-le-Bow is an historic church in the City of London,[1] off Cheapside. According to tradition, a true Cockney must be born within earshot of the sound of the church's bells."

Article is at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary-le-Bow
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I've heard that before...I guess EastEnders are very territorial when it comes to being a true cockney. I forget where they modeled ALbert Square after, but they do claim it was somewhere in the East End. I remember reading somewhere that real Londoners have said how fake EE is...due to the lack of swearing, lol.
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Jul 5 2011, 07:29 PM
reading somewhere that real Londoners have said how fake EE is...due to the lack of swearing, lol.
I'm glad they don't have real swearing on it. (Not that I don't swear....I do). Somehow that would cheapen it or something. It's amazing what the TV networks in the UK can get away with though.....language and nudity like you would see on HBO....I think it has to be after 9pm, if I'm remembering correctly.

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"Stacey: The bird in the café she's a bit up herself but not too bad. Yolande in the shop, she's up herself. She's all right sometimes. Pauline in the launderette, she's a right old dragon and she's up herself. The other one just goes on about God all day. My Nan's a battleaxe. My cousin Mo's all right but my cousin Zoë, wait till you get a load of her."
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Ohhh, London

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166! Super shot, Angie!! What is the clam-like building center-left?
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173! I had a cat-sitting job in the East End of London over Christmas a few years ago. I stayed in a beautiful apartment in the Limehouse District, on the historic "Narrow Street" which runs along the back of the Thames River. "The Grapes" -- a pub a couple of doors down from the apartment -- was built in 1720 as a working class tavern and was rumored to be where Dickens hung out. It was featured in "Our Mutual Friend." I had a full "Sunday Lunch" there once and popped in for drinks a few times. For more information, see "Limehouse" and "The Grapes" in Wikipedia.

I've always loved listening to the radio broadcast from King's College, Cambridge of the "Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols" over the Christmas holidays. Since I was in the East End over Christmas, I walked to St. Dunstan and All Saints in Stepney on Christmas Eve in order to hear that service. That Anglican church is known as the "Mother Church of the East End." The site is over 1,000 years old. It was a wonderful experience to participate in that special Christmas Eve celebration, and afterwards everyone was invited to join the congregation for wassail and miniature mince pies. People were dressed very plainly and were so friendly. See "St. Dunstan's, Stepney" in Wikipedia for more information.

There was a cafe, called "Frank's," in the area that was very similar to the caff in EastEnders - what we would refer to as a "greasy spoon."
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Great story Bobbie! I would love to be in London over Christmas. 145!

Even though most stuff is closed on Christmas day.

Cat sitting, difficult task, huh? 179!

Lucky you.

Cheers for sharing. 77!
Edited by Scott, Sep 1 2011, 08:05 AM.
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Oh Bobbie that sounds a dream, complete with wassail and mince pies! What did you mean by 'dressed plainly"?

Gorgeous picture Angie!
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145! Velvet, by "dressed plainly," I meant blue jeans and t-shirts! I'm not a regular church or temple goer, so I thought it was customary for people to "dress up" on Christmas Eve for church services. Maybe times have changed, or that was just the "East End."

72! Scott, in addition to the evening of Christmas Eve, ALL of Christmas Day, and ALL of Boxing Day, London was officially CLOSED - NOTHING was opened, including all public transportation. Luckily, the weather was nice for walking and there were TV programs to watch, and books to read.
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Sep 2 2011, 09:51 PM
by "dressed plainly," I meant blue jeans and t-shirts!
I'm sure you looked spectacular luv. 93!
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Wow Bobbie, that is a surprise, especially in jolly old England. As a regular church goer it is mixed in the States. Some are in shorts and some are dressed to the nines. Different denominations have a certain dress culture. It is of no importance of course...I just wondered how they did it in the East End. I guess I pictured hats and plaid and fur muffs, lol.
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