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Topic Started: Feb 21 2011, 09:26 PM (528 Views)
Foxby
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Yeah okay. So.

Lately, I've been considering just up and going. And I know I won't, but it disturbs me a lot that I even have to consider it. I love the people here, really, I do.

But some people become instant assholes when given power. I should note right now that, if I refer to "admins," I probably mean "and mods."

Now, I'm not saying, "oh, I hate zetaboards." I'm saying that the change could have done better in just about every way possible.

Backup in case the members hate it? Nope.

Testing, to see if they like it in the first place? Nope.

Admission of guilt and attempt to make it up to the community from the staff? Nope. In fact, most of the response to the criticism has been mostly, "It's better, fuck you." The only apology I can remember was prefaced by, and I paraphrase, "Well, I'll guess I'll be the bigger man and apologize first."

Then, after a change is made and the community hates the lack of audience participation, what happens next?

Another change. The C-box is swapped for one with less functionality but more graphics. (They're ugly graphics, but it's more graphics than the old C-box had.) This is, eventually, "rectified" by adding the old C-box below the new one in a passive-aggressive, "Hey, don't you feel stupid now?"

On top of that, I get to sit in Skype conversations that Kiba and Amanda aren't in and hear nothing but one of our staff talking about how horrible it is that they're complaining. Their complaining is fueled by all of the above, but especially the callous response of our EH staff-- which, again, boils down to "Don't like it, go fuck yourselves."

I'm not proposing a revolution here, but the EH staff should realize at some point that it is, essentially, a government, and as with any government, its power to rule the people are given by its people. I am honestly recommending you settle the hell down and listen to your members, or I wouldn't be surprised if EH's populace moves to a forum with staff that doesn't continuously anger its visitors or dissipates entirely.

I'm not saying the entire staff is like this, but as a collective, very much yes.
Edited by Foxby, Feb 21 2011, 09:28 PM.
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...I want to have this rant's babies D:
Edited by Thanatos, Feb 21 2011, 10:11 PM.
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Foxby
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I said "another forum," not "a forum with the goal of well-written smut."

This isn't the place for that. If anything, it makes our "side" look bad.

I should also mention that I do not always agree with Kiba or Amanda on this issue. Sometimes, they go too far. Sometimes, they go in the wrong direction. But if I have to choose a side, I'd like to lead this one, if only because the thought of Amanda or Kiba leading it terrifies me.
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This thread has been in the back of my mind the whole day, I honestly didn't feel like actually getting on today, I didn't think I knew what I should say; I'm looking back at this reflection period now as a excuse for me to make the following statements and, with all honesty, all of this comes from within and are true and are my reasons and my comments;

Your right, I know for a fact that we should've came to you guys about Emerald Hill, I felt, when Me and Zoden talked about upgrading Emerald Hill, We felt that we were actually improving the site, we honestly did have the best intentions for everyone here, we didn't decide to do it because we wanted to usurp power, we didn't want to be admins again because it was the cool thing to do, we felt that Emerald Hill was something worth improving, you guys are special and we do care for you. You may not believe us, but we both had the best intentions.

Now, where we went wrong is we forgot why Emerald Hill is what it is, It's a close-knitted forum where the same people come on everyday and night to talk about our day and Role-Play, we've become like brother and sisters at this point, I've talked to the same people everyday for about four-five years now, I forget about all of that though for a few days, I only thought today that Emerald Hill's has outlasted so many forums, My friend has been on four different forums in five years, each was a remake of one other forum or a attempt to restart and make things better, or because it died; Emerald Hill has outlasted all of those forums because of the people who come on here, it's the dedicated people who make this forum last for the years it did and never quit on her even when life was hard, when relations on this forum was icy at best, when it slowed down a couple times and was on the brink of death.

Yet, Emerald Hill has lived on, it's size, while small, has outlasted many mega forums that outsize the membership here by the thousands, We are a group of special men and women, we've created a successful experiment from Emerald Hill, we've proven that size doesn't make success, that the people here, if dedicated enough, will keep the blood flowing here. During these last few days, I forgot all about that and now the forum stands on the brink once more, as it always have, and one of our smartest and most logical member is threatening to leave, along with a few others outstanding members who has spent years on this forum.

I will not stand for this.

I hereby announce elections and debate will follow from this point on, we will leave the new chat box up for a little while longer, but we will be voting on this matter in the near future, I will also open a thread for people to express their ideas and give alternative suggestions based on making a new chat box, I will also, from now on, ask for the members of Emerald Hill to always, like Foxby has done here, to keep reminding us Admins about our responsibility in a elegant matter, I do not ask for you to use the C-box to vent or argue in a matter uncivilized, I would like to ask the people of Emerald Hill to take part in the changes that will come in the future, and debate and sell their ideas.

I've come to realize that I've been wrong; And, I'm not going to take the easy way out, I do admit I was wrong and I will change my style for the better, I will begin by saying that (without saying those words that followed before, which was very assholeish) that I'm sorry for anybody that we have offended in this whole thing, I'm sorry to everybody for the way we have been behaving, I'm sorry for the way we have done things so far and I am sorry for the childish and arrogant actions I may have displayed over the past few days.

I'm only asking we start over, I believe it's never too late to start over, I do have a feeling we can put this behind us and make Emerald Hill all it can be, not because four people hold power, but because everyone has the power to change Emerald Hill. The Zetaboards are here to stay, but we can find whats best for our forum, it's never too late to start anew, and I do ask for your forgiveness, but more importantly, your cooperation.

Thank you.
Edited by HAL-9000, Feb 23 2011, 02:02 AM.
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