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Once again, I must rant about Fox News; And their arrgoant stupidity.
Topic Started: Mar 28 2009, 12:43 PM (803 Views)
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I understand perfectly Mary. In Newfoundland, My accent and culture is vanishing due to the mainstream American enterainment industry. It's a sin really since my views of the United States is equally as sober as Mary's, if not poorer since were their allies and we have to listen to the bullshit from Fox News.

China isn't very well treated among the West, Canada is even guilty for showing China in such a light. American Imperlism has been weaken due to this Global meltdown and America's 'cock' has shorten greatly proving the fact that it can't fuck nations up the ass anymore without fucking itself. To be far, The eight years of Facist America is up and the dictator has been overthrown due to the brillence of the founding fathers. China is just a country of people looking for change, Like America today and they have emerged as a superpower... Thats probably the reason why most news channels trys to throw China down... because they're afraid of this new nation throwing the god America off of his holy throne of Superpowerdom.

However, People like me and flames really need to shorten out views a bit now in the States and hope Obama actually tries to shorten American domience over the world a little bit. Globalization and Imperalism is really something the United States needs to stop doing but probably won't since 300 million people can consume so much and throw away so much. Hell, It's argued that the States alone throws enough food away everyday to feed the other side of the world. It's a sin really that America has been reduced to stompping on devloping nations to feed it's war machines... hell, I'd even compare America to the Soviet's crushing the nations in Eastern Europe and eating them up to increase pressure on the west... That time was really proof that humanity needs to change.... and quite frankly, America hasn't learned it's lesson yet.
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~FDR (if I remember correctly) was the one who said we could only be elected President two terms or ten years. Not the Founding Fathers.
~Are you implying that the fact that we throw away food is crushing developing countries? o.O
~I'm pretty sure we throw China down because of their horrible human rights in the past, which conflicts with our views that living is good.
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Mar 31 2009, 06:09 PM
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~FDR (if I remember correctly) was the one who said we could only be elected President two terms or ten years. Not the Founding Fathers.
~Are you implying that the fact that we throw away food is crushing developing countries? o.O
~I'm pretty sure we throw China down because of their horrible human rights in the past, which conflicts with our views that living is good.

~ I might be wrong on a few things but two terms is 8 years and FDR was in power through the 1930s to the mid 1940s before he died. Plus, It was estalbished throughout history that a President must have two terms.
Plus, Wrong topic.
~No, I'm commenting on the fact that Americans are throwing away food that could feed people straving. It goes to show how much food people throws away and how much lives it can save.
~ If living is good then why are there Americans forcing democracy to people who don't want it? And why does Americans start wars with no real meanings if they love life as much as you claim they do.
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I would have to agree with Joey on this issue. I know, having lived in Canada for university and am actually now back in your country to finish my master degree, how the west tries to portray a negative image of China and Chinese people in their media. Again, it sickens me.. not just because I am Chinese but even with that being ignored, it's still the same old bully concept that the world's nations are trying to avoid becoming now. The world has grown up since WWII, we know how to deal with each other on reasonable bases - everyone except the West that is!

Let me put this in a light that you will hopefully understand, although Joey did a good job of it already. America is like the bully of the playground: he's young, arrogant, cocky, and good with a slingshot, which is giving him full reign of the playground. However, China, an older student who is currently having a bit of an identity crisis and not sure who his friends are at the moment, becomes a victim of America's insecurity as the new kid, and is made fun of. China, usually a composed and strong teenager, falls prey to America's verbal abuse and slingshot fire because of America's newly acquired friends, also bullied into following him, do not stand up for China.

A bit of an odd metaphor, but the point I'm trying to prove is that AMERICA IS A BULLY. China is one of the most ancient nations on Earth, and have been going strong for years until America and its sickening media of bullshit came along and began spreading biased, ignorant rumours about our culture and government THAT HAVE NO BASE OF TRUTH WHATSOEVER. In the West, just by experience, I have been victim to racism I don't ever understand!! "Chinese people can't drive, right?", "Don't give it to her, she won't be able to see it", and hundreds of ignorent whitewashed Westerners and Chinese alike shouting insults at me!! I AM ENRAGED BY THE MERE MENTION OF THE NAME 'AMERICA'! And it's not even just China that America bullies, IT'S EVERYONE! EVERY NATION ON EARTH!

Just last year, in preparation for the Beijing Olympic Games, both the US and Canada representatives brought up concerns about having the games in China.. they said they were concerned about the living conditions of the athletes , the safe-ness of the food, the air quality.. it's like they think China is a third world country!! Based only on their own biased views of our country BEFORE EVEN STEPPING FOOT INTO CHINA TO OBSERVE OUR PROGRESS! Which INSULTS THE CRAP OUT OF ME AND OTHER CHINESE PEOPLE because China made a lot of changes in order to prepare for those games!! Beijing08 was one of China's VERY FIRST openly international events since the closing of our nation before the Revolution!! It kills me how the West can be so FUCKING IGNORANT about China's people and its progress and to compare us to dogs is UNFORGIVABLE!!!

There was also major issues with the general public within China before the Olympics.. as the economic side of the Chinese public wanted to incorporate Western social ideals into the larger markets and social squares of Beijing, an online vow (it's hard to describe exactly...) was made amongst people in China on the internet as a sort of unspoken promise.. and that is why you will see many people who are worried about the western globalization breaking through into China, online, have that "(L)CHINA!" in front of their names on messengers.. to express our love of China AS IT IS and without western influence.

I know I side a lot with China in terms of American domination but that is solely because of where I come from. It's not just China who face these problems, but nations all over the world - as Joey has stated, Canada, AMERICA'S NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR, is also a large victim of American imperialistic ideals!! Not just them, but many countries in Europe, Africa, South America, and Asia are at risk of this same invasion of culture...



Bah. It just infuriates me to no end. =v=;
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If this is off topic, sorry, but out of curiosity, shouldn't we refer to "America" as either the U.S. or Canada depending on what we're referring to?
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Mar 31 2009, 06:22 PM
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Mar 31 2009, 06:09 PM
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~FDR (if I remember correctly) was the one who said we could only be elected President two terms or ten years.  Not the Founding Fathers.
~Are you implying that the fact that we throw away food is crushing developing countries?  o.O
~I'm pretty sure we throw China down because of their horrible human rights in the past, which conflicts with our views that living is good.

~ I might be wrong on a few things but two terms is 8 years and FDR was in power through the 1930s to the mid 1940s before he died. Plus, It was estalbished throughout history that a President must have two terms.
Plus, Wrong topic.
~No, I'm commenting on the fact that Americans are throwing away food that could feed people straving. It goes to show how much food people throws away and how much lives it can save.
~ If living is good then why are there Americans forcing democracy to people who don't want it? And why does Americans start wars with no real meanings if they love life as much as you claim they do.

~Yes, FDR was the last president to have done this. I clearly said two terms OR ten years; for instance, if a President is shot mid-way through their term, the VP can take over and then be elected Pres twice. If the Pres is shot earlier, the VP can only be elected Pres once.

~But that's not stomping on them, it's just not helping them.

~Forcing democracy has nothing to do with 'living is good,' does it? o.o And we tend to not... be... starting wars without meaning? Jeebus that's an affront to the English language. Anyway-- the thing in Iraq is more 'occupation,' and we didn't really plan for it to be ongoing. At this point, EVERYONE in America is saying "oh fuck how did this happen D:" and to be fair, a good amount of Iraqis approve of the U. S.
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Mar 31 2009, 06:26 PM
If this is off topic, sorry, but out of curiosity, shouldn't we refer to "America" as either the U.S. or Canada depending on what we're referring to?

I refer to "the West" which is mainly America, but can include Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. It's an Asian thing.. =v= "America" on its own generally refers to the U.S. above the others.
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Very excellent post Mary! I agree with what your saying... And Foxby.

~ Don't think I can honestly aruge with that.
~ Since you like such a cock about things, Allow me to explain it like this. America throws away a lot of food because they know they have some more waiting for them. America throws away so much food that it can actually feed the other side of the world. Now, I'm not suggesting that we 'give' them out table scraps because thats just threating them like dogs. I'm merely commenting on the fact people should conserve their food and eat only what they plan to eat... Plus, Did you know $10 can feed a African child for a month?

Just throwing it out there.

~ Which is a prime example of American Imperialism. If nobody is going to listen to America while it throws it's weight around the world to get what it wants "Iraq's Sweet, Sweet Oil.. and uh.. sure, 'peace to the East' then it's going to resort to violence which it has... And without meaning isn't a proper way to explain Iraq, I'm sorry, how about we call Iraq a war without no meaning to the objective of America's misson. True, While I agree that most Americans think Iraq is a failure since the mission has like a 20% or so approval rating and America has taken the right actions to finish it. But the point is that people don't want to be forced upon with ideals, kinda like me making you face the idea that pancakes are better then waffles. Espeically if you must walk into a country and bomb them to 'bring peace' which is a oxymoron.
The way America conducted Iraq is obivously illegal, they used toture to get infomantion from prisoners, they used militarism and global influence to gather up support for a attack. Plus, America had brought Al Queda into Iraq which made the area more dangerous for citizens. Is this how you bring Democracy to a region? And to prove my point further, I remember reading a artical where some Iraqi's prefered Saddam over America and wanted him back.

To Amanda: No, America is far from weak. America is the strongest nation on Earth, It's just that instead of being humble and respecting everybody else and be like Switzerland 'a nation far more mature then any of ours' , America tries runs everyone and disrespects everybody even if they help the country out. America is what Mary says it is. A kid with a good shot and he's willing to use his influence to get what he wants... Which is Imperialism.
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I AM ENRAGED BY THE MERE MENTION OF THE NAME 'AMERICA'!

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*ahem* Now that I've had my fun, my two cents. I blame Japan first off, and Canada and China second. Now, BEFORE I get my head bitten off, lemme explain my logic.

Japan~

Dun get me wrong, I love the country. Never been there, but would love to. I'd just have to take a lot of ramen because I can't stomach most of the food from there XD Anyway. A lot of America's thinking we're the most awesome country ever is their fault in my opinion. Why? WWII. We were trying to remain an isolationist country (which wouldn't have helped much anyway), and they attacked us at Pearl Harbor. Now, being hot blooded American's, this (pardon my french) pissed us off. Honestly, we just wanted to get revenge on Japan, we had no real intention of fighting Hitler until he actually declared war on us. Now, we helped beat him, no problem. Japan was the problem. Russia had by this point more or less backed out of the war, and we had no real way to fight Japan effectively what with it being an island. Couldn't get many troops over there without planes, which could easily be destroyed by this point. Now, here comes the first two nuclear bombs in existence. Hmm. We're the only country at that point who can cause devastation on that scale in an instant. OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T GET EGOTISTICAL 8D */sarcasm* From the end of WWII, to the beginning of the Cold War, we WERE the strongest country on Earth, just because we could make the nuclear weapons and no one else could until Russia. After a few years of being on top, we're going to get it stuck in our heads that we are.

China and Canada~
Honestly. I wonder why we have stereotypes about you people. Its not as if most of our country has been there, MAYBE a small percent has been to either, and most of them are either immigrants (in China's case), or decide to stay in either Canada or China. Also, sure, China makes a lot of our products, but beyond that, the average Joe of America couldn't tell you much about it except maybe they speak Chinese. Canada, well, its stereotypes have had a lot of help from the media, not to mention some stereotypes I do believe actually used to apply or still do. (if Joey's any indication, a love of beer and hockey apply, anyway) Also, Li and Mary, I hate to break this to you, but your country is communist. Not saying that's a BAD thing, but we've not exactly had good relations with communism, what with Japan and Russia both being communist and us being in a war with both of them. As for Canada, I believe this has been said, but Fox News is made of a bunch of pricks. A lot of Americans have a lot of love for Canadians, but the Fox team DID hit on one thing. A lot of Americans AREN'T aware that Canada has an army, because of another stereotype. However, in my experience at least, this is seen as a good thing rather than a bad thing XD I've heard a lot of people wish they lived in Canada because of it.
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I'm glad you agree with me, Joey~ ^.^ It is true, although it is a stereotype at heart. It is safe to say that it applies.. America is a little kid in a world of grown up, respectable countries and he's just trying to get power through bullying, just because he has a sharp shot and a corrupted sense of justice and power. He is consumed by it, but is so inexperienced to be a superpower it's laughable.. and yet the media in the West has forged the circumstances where he has been able to ascend to the top of the power-ladder of the playground, when other, more experienced nations are tossed into the sand (China, Russia, England, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, etc.)

I completely agree with Joey's ideas..
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"Throws Hockey Sticks and Beer Bottles at Kiba" Shut up! I'm not like that >: (!11

Great post Kiba, Seriously. I agree with a lot of the things you said, Power does corrupt and turn people into sobs and when America grabbed the nuke, they defiently seen a chance to grab the other nations by the balls to become like Britian before WWI... And to be fair, Russia did come back into the war and paddled Hitler nutsack badly...


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=v=.. Let me make this VERY clear to you.


CHINA IS CAPITALIST.


And have been since 1949. This shows how your bullshit media has ignored everything about our country that is true and have bombarded you with FAKE, BIASED, AND FUCKING IGNORANT COMMENTS MADE OF ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. Yes, China WAS communist, WAS, but that was over 60 years ago! LEARN YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO INSULT SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY. This should teach you that your country's media is run by a barrel of monkeys!

Seriously.. and you guys wonder why I bash America SO MUCH.. =v=;

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LEARN YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO INSULT SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY. This should teach you that your country's media is run by a barrel of monkeys!

Seriously.. and you guys wonder why I bash America SO MUCH.. =v=;

"GTFO OUR COUNTRY" kind of contradicts with "LEARN ABOUT OUR COUNTRY," don'tcha think?

Also Joey

~Yes, I do... like such a cock? Ooookay then, now that we've deferred to namecalling...
Doesn't the fact that we have those programs indicate that we're actually kind of nice? I mean, are YOU giving ten dollars a month? If not, you are just as evil as you are calling us.

~Oookay, I've actually heard a lot of pro-American sentiment among Iraqis, further helped by my soldier friend in the Middle East.
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~ So, you justify that your programs is excusable for the food people throw away? I know programs exist and the like but my point is this: All it's trying to say is that people need to eat what they're going to eat and now throw the rest away. North America, And a huge majority of that is America, throws away the most food and resources on the planet, And China and India has A billion people. Kinda pathic if your out-eating a billion people isn't it?
~ Of course, there is people who likes and who doesn't what America is doing. But that doesn't mean sqat. It's like at the end of Phoenix Wright, ((SPOILERS)) Godot killed Maya's mom to protect Maya. He went to jail and was killed even though his actions were meant for good. Just because something is supported and has good intentions doesn't mean that it's 'right'
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