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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 07:32 PM Post #1 |
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Yeah I know I’m new Yeah I know I’m a girl on the fucking internet Yeah I know I date one of the strangest guy's here But I also know proper etiquette for RP's. One of the polite unspoken rules to being a good RP-er is to READ EVERYTHING. In the PL thread when we where in the pods I spent a few posts talking about things I found and packed. I was not in a pod with anyone else so I only really had a direct conversation with 2 people over the com. So, I guess if I didn’t talk to you my posts where not important to your character, right? WRONG, a few pages later I decided, hey I have a GOOD way of solving a problem because I actually though through what survival items might be on an emergency escape pod. But did people accept that I had produced these items in a legitimate way, no they didn’t, I got a slew of 'where the hell did you get that' and 'why would that be in an escape pod'. To address this issue I’m going to say why clothing, a tunic as a fine example would be in a pod and why I chose that item, because apparently just conmen sense cant figure this one out. A tunic is a unisex piece of clothing that is durable. When put over another shirt it can provide extra warmth. When worn along it is a light cool piece of clothing. But why would clothing be on an escape pod? Well the word escape should be what gives it away. Escaping is usually running away from something is going to hurt/kill you. When fleeing a lot of people might not have time to pack the needed items. Now think back to those early social studies classes in elementary and middle schools. We where asked at least once what a being needed to survive. We need nutritious food, we need clean water (and yes clean water doesn’t just mean clear water, it means sanitary water), and we need shelter from the elements. Shelter from the elements? Hmmm that sounds like Protection from the sun and weather! What do we wear everyday to keep us warm, and dry? Clothing. WOWIE I DIDNT KNOW THAT! So along with food an water what makes sense to put in an escape pod designed for survival? Maybe clothing, because you cant just float through space the rest of your life, you have to be able to land and enter a new environment (which means what? SUN AND WEATHER AND THE ELEMENTS GODD JOB!). So now that you know that clothing is needed for survival lets talk about the actual topic! So, reading other peoples posts, do you need to? Well you don’t NEED to, its not zombie Jesus is going to pop out of nowhere and gun you done for not reading someone’s post. But is it the proper thing to do, yes. Here, have some pro's and con's. PRO'S TO READING POSTS: you know what people are doing and where they are you know when someone comes into your environment you know when someone leaves your environment you know when people are lying about posts you know when someone does something that doesn’t make sense you know when someone makes an announcement CON'S TO READING POSTS: you have to read them. I'm not saying that reading posts lets your character know what the other is doing, but it lets the Rp-er know. It lets you prepare and enhance your Rp-ing: EXAMPLE: in Lisa’s post she walk's past several people and leaves the area. You don’t read her post: You start talking to Lisa, OR you don’t notice at all. When Lisa comes back and says something that she found out, your sitting there thinking, 'When the hell did she leave?' You DO read her post: You stop Lisa and ask her where she's going, you follow her and help her find something (because when your not Rp-ing with someone else you might as well be writing a book). OR you take note of it, and when she comes back 3 hours later you ask her why she was gone so long and actively talk about where she went Outside of the actual RP reading posts is also helpful. It lets you talk about what should happen next (say Jill found a cave in her posts and talked about the location and what’s in the cave). You can branch off of everyone’s individuals finds and help map out your location or talk about what you think is inconsistent. (it also stops people from falsely accusing you of pulling a tunic out of your ass) |
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| Maria Viola | Feb 26 2010, 07:46 PM Post #2 |
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I know it was wrong of me to mention the tunic. I had read your posts, really I did, but it had been a long time since them and I didn't remember things properly. Sorry about that. BUT I think there's also another side of RP etiquette that needs to be looked at, since I don't think anyone is innocent of breaking a rule or two. When you see a post in an RP that doesn't make sense to you, what do you do? You SHOULD politely point it out without making a fuss over it (Ex. OOC: Hey, I noticed your character talking to Lisa, but Lisa had left the area in my previous post. Could you edit that?). What should you not do? Well, the big picture is that you don't start drama. In detail, what that means is you shouldn't engage in an argument via your RP characters when it isn't such a big deal (I know you guys were trying to be careful wit the whole pan stuff in your guys' posts, but is it so wrong to assume there were already supplies there?). Overall, it can easily agitate other people, and its not worth it to make a fuss over the little details. Besides, boiling water in a "magically obtained" pot would kill off most of the germs anyway (note how I said MOST and not ALL). If I had to decide, I wouldn't mind taking pretty clean water over fussing over whether the water was pure or not (not to mention I would prefer having water over not having water anyway). I know that mentioning the tunic was wrong, which was my bad. Still, that doesn't really give you the right to jump on Richard every time he makes a logically incorrect post in your eyes. |
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| Foxby | Feb 26 2010, 07:58 PM Post #3 |
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The problem is, everyone (or at least a lot of us) in EH takes an RP-argument very personally (especially when they're supposed to be "us"). When PL-me argues with PL-Richard, real-me isn't festering hatred for real-Richard. Why would PL-me start the argument? Well, she wants to not die, she's a massive germaphobe, and frankly, she and PL-Richard simply don't get along. Considering the circumstances, if PL-me didn't start an argument, that would be acting massively out of character. A little drama's good now and then. A lot of RPs on EH die because everyone just gets along and it ends up like Lord of the Rings-- a long walk to throw a ring into a volcano or stab an emperor guy or whatever the ultimate goal is. Also, to clarify: The stink isn't about the pan, it's about the water. We made two or three pages of cleaning the water and trying to ration it out to everyone. We figured that made it something that couldn't just be accidentally overlooked-- Richard just boiling any old water without going through half the sanitation crap we did for the good of the last remaining spot of humanity came as an insult to our characters (and a bit to ourselves), so stink was raised. |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:03 PM Post #4 |
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I do not see what I was doing as 'jumping at' I asked him about the pots and pants, because 'myself' and 'Bobbie' had spent a great deal getting our supplies just to make fresh water for the group. Richard pulled a pot and pan out of nowhere. The pot is believable because it is possibly what we used to boil water earlier. But multiple people described the house as dirty and unused. Which means germs and dust. The sentence, 'searched through a cabinet until I found some sort of pan' or 'found a pan in a cabinet and heated and rinsed it', could easily clear up anything. Yes, doing things that makes sense don’t always need to be posted, but there should at least be a time gap. He waltzed into the house, put a pot of water (which is also from an unknown source considering it was his post that told Bobby and Myself that water should be taken from a stream outside of the town) and pan on to cook food. I mentioned it in character. My motive for this was simple. I spent time leaving the house and asking for a bucket, he magically knew where they where. If that happened in real life you would do a double take. and in an actualy related note, was this topic 'jumping' at someone? |
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| Maria Viola | Feb 26 2010, 08:11 PM Post #5 |
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Note 1 (Foxby): Drama is good sometimes, but you gotta admit that you and Olivia have been bringing up drama a bit too often lately (How about drama between some other thing that isn't in our group?) and it's not the kind of drama that makes the RP fun anyway. Note 2 (Foxby): The inhabitants seem to be doing quite fine. They know the water is dirty, but I hardly doubt they're advanced enough to know EXACTLY how to get water completely purified. Note 3 (Olivia): "Jumping at someone" is my polite way of saying "Bitching to a person." My reason for saying that is because you and Foxby haven't really been polite when pointing out flaws in posts. You just had your characters bicker about it (Richard could have added a few details to make more sense, but he's told me that he's been losing interest in the RP anyway. It's understandable that he wouldn't want to make sure every detail was correct). *Special Note: The topic is RP etiquette. That does not only apply to reading posts. It also applies to acting politely. So yes, jumping at someone-- Oh, sorry, I mean bitching, is related to this topic since it refers to bitching about RP flaws. |
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| Foxby | Feb 26 2010, 08:21 PM Post #6 |
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Note 2: The inhabitants could be immune to cholera. We're not. Several people have pointed out multiple times that our immune systems might not be ready for -anything.- That being said, we've only been on the planet for about a day. For all we know, half the village is spraying diarrhea all over the place due to diseased water. I'm not saying it's so-- but our characters don't know for sure that it isn't, and would like to take the best possible course of action. Being perfectly honest, I'd be skeptical about the fairfax itself, but it's the only food we've got besides the rations, and those are rations. We gotta... ration those. |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:22 PM Post #7 |
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I am well aware of what 'jumping at someone' means. But if you go back and read my post (how ironic) I simply asked where he got his materials. Than Pointed it out (((the way what you said I should))) I got no response in (((form))) just a flippant answer from his character. I pointed out for the interest of the possibly last bit of humanity, that the supplies might be dirty. Around here he got extremely curt. So like most people in real life would do, I became agitated that he wasn’t giving a strait answer (because in the real world that usually means lies). Then Bobby jumped in. If you look at the posts you will see that the bickering (the short 2 line posts) took place between Foxby and Fayt for the most part. I then stated my point, which made perfect sense scientifically and left. I did not 'bitch' anyone out. on a side note, if he is losing interest in an RP he should do something interesting, or kill himself off somehow. He did not make his losing interest public, so it shouldn’t affect the 'public'. |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:25 PM Post #8 |
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oh, I’m sorry should I change the title to etiquette? Because I mentioned reading posts is part of etiquette. I didn’t mention to many other 'etiquette rules' |
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| Fayt | Feb 26 2010, 08:30 PM Post #9 |
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Hmm, well after reading all of your posts here, I realized the problem in my posting. Cool, I could have fixed that easily with a quick paragraph. Course you wanted to butt heads with me about it. Cool, I dont really care one way or the other. Good news to everyone though. Im done with PL. Its just not fun anymore. Id like to say I blame Foxby and Olivia because of that, but thats a lie. Its too much damn work. This is the most elaborate RP in EH history, or at least the most thought over and discussed. Y'know what? screw that, Im going to voice my opinions here. Olivia, I dont know you too well, so its sorta unfair for me to make accusations, but your Amanda 2.0. Older members to EH know exactly what that means. Foxby, I dont think your like this normally, cause I usually got along with you really well before the RP. But I just dont think that fondly about you. You have to nitpick about every single detail of the RP if you dont agree and it makes me want to break things. Often. Everything. I mean sure Alot of your points were valid, but I cant remember an RP ive been with you that you bitched about as much. I also want to get back to the Tunic thing. Seriously Olivia, you did pull that one out of your ass. Never did I mention that there were any changes of clothing inside the pods, merely food rations for a week, and fuel/energy reserves for the pod itself. You added the tunics in yourself. Besides, if there were any changes of clothing I almost guarantee that it would not be a bloody tunic. We were given pretty much single piece futuristic jumpsuits once we got on the Earth ship. These are people that are several decades ahead of Unclassified research back on earth, I.E. what we know of right now. There is no reason why we would go back to using tunics for anything and store them in escape pods. Like I said, Im done with this RP, its got Cancer and you two are what gave it that. |
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| Maria Viola | Feb 26 2010, 08:37 PM Post #10 |
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@Fayt: XD Oh wow, I don't care who you are, that's epic right there. And now back to the actual reply: If you guys are going to make a fuss about one person, it's only fair that we make a fuss about you two. I agree w/ Fayt that Foxby does a lot of nitpicking, and I add that you (Olivia) were nitpicking too-- The both of you were. Maybe "bitching" isn't the right word, and I'm sorry, but you guys still caused a fuss over nothing while trying to look like you two were innocent. |
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| Foxby | Feb 26 2010, 08:37 PM Post #11 |
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I think we've gone over the tunic thing enough to justify their existence. Not only that, but if an escape pod in space only has food for a week and fuel, it's more of a "go die somewhere else" pod. We assumed that they had enough in there to actually live on, should they actually be needed. And I nitpick because I noticed the problems and wanted to fix them so they didn't become a plothole in the future or create massive problems. I let you get by with a few things, as well, deciding it wasn't worth it. I know that for a long time we've been good friends, and I hate to think that our arguments over an RP would ruin that. I still personally think you're a good guy, if a bit of a hothead. |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:38 PM Post #12 |
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Never was I informed that you made up everything in this RP. If I had known you where in charge of items I would have stuck to what you said. You gave a brief over view Also, I did not jump at your, I asked a question that you avoided, so I attempted to find an answer. You got extremely defensive over it. I even notified you (((while talking out of character))) of your mistake. you did not respond to that. That is when Foxby jumped in and 'bickered' I watched the argument, made my final point and left. I asked a question, your response with my curiosity caused the drama. It was a group effort. Quitting because something does not go your way is childish. You didn’t give any attempt to discuss your decision. Bravo. I'm the bitch now is that what you wanted? |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:42 PM Post #13 |
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I am not trying to make myself seem innocent I have admitted that my questions brought this about. I'm just saying it was a group effort. |
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| Fayt | Feb 26 2010, 08:43 PM Post #14 |
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Nah, im not quitting because everything isnt going my way, its not supposed to. its an RP. Im quitting because all of this complaning over specifics is making this RP more of a Job than a hobby. Thats why im quitting. And no your not the bitch I wanted Olivia, your just an unexpected turn of events that happened to be bitchy, i think that without this RP we may have gotten along. Maybe who knows, I still dont know you well, so so far my impression is, your a clone of Amanda. just with a few of the bugs taken out. Like being stark raving insane for one. Thats the bright side to this little insult of mine. |
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| NewAgeVintage | Feb 26 2010, 08:49 PM Post #15 |
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Well in many peoples opinions the thing that makes rp-ing fun is making up a story that works. I like details, that is why I write, because seeing something come together well and without a hitch is how an rp (in my opinion) should be. It is a group effort to make a working world with all the kinks worked out. I look at it as a hobby, but not a relaxing one, more like a mind puzzle or game. Where I think about what makes sense and make it happen. In a completely ironic sense your making me want to quit rp-ing as well. The reason I stopped in the first place was people not giving shit about things that could in fact change the story line. My main example here is the water. Your posts did not confirm or deny that it was clean water, this could cause a contradiction later on. |
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