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Math for Monarchy
Topic Started: May 21 2011, 07:32 PM (1,364 Views)
caotic chaos
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we tried monarchy once in gc. it ended misrebly. I think wed be better off with a democratic/other form of gov.
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Hadisthe
May 22 2011, 03:33 PM
Kind of thought we were friends.
Indeed.
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Knistii
May 22 2011, 04:40 AM
I think that actually, that looks like a standard bell curve graph for population activity, I think if we could look further, or compare it to other regional activity we would see that a constant rise and fall is pretty normal, and has nothing to do with the governing body.

I believe also that this clearly reflects the amount of free time people have, look at the dates here - regional activity is higher when people are on holiday in RL. Regional activity was also much higher before the GFC took hold. Nowadays people are working harder and for longer and often have less time in front of a computer.

I think that you haven't at all covered all of the possible variables that might cause this and simply attributing it to 'The Democracy Fad' is a way to justify taking complete power back.

I'm not being a troll, the idea that Democracy doesn't work and that having a single 'guiding voice' is better sounds a lot like Mussolini's political ideology to me.

"Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy." - Benito Mussolini

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty." - Benito Mussolini

"Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election." - Adolf Hitler


Democracy is not a Fad, Democracy works and by denying that fact you put yourself in league with the Fascists sir.

Then how do you explain that the forum activity constantly rises until the exact moment I step down? Then for what looks like a few days it goes insane because everyone is buzzing about the new government, and then it goes on a steady fall. It coincides almost exactly with when I stepped down. This is why I decided to come back because I have faith in my own ability to push this region to success. Democracy as it were did not succeed in the region; but it cannot be truly called a democracy. It was more of a republic. And it failed miserably and ended up in power struggles, miserable members, departures and arguments. The only ones who appear, at this point in time, to be against a single person in control of Equinox (as a theory itself, forget for a moment that it is me as founder), are the ones who were not active in the original "Monarchy era" of Equinox.

Have faith.

Also, Hadi and Hadi's attackers, keep the personal assaults to a minimum.

I'm a little surprised the region doesn't have more faith in Hadi, at the communications position of all things. The only thing he does is write the bloody EMT which nobody else was apparently arsed to do, so cut him some slack on that one. I don't blame the region necessarily however for roasting yumyum on Chief Ambassador. I applaud his effort but I didn't think he was ready for the position either, although I did vote for him under the condition I would support him through the term.

Results to be posted shortly, as well as Mekhet's election for Recruiting Officer.
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M'aeq
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Again, just would like to state, it's not about having faith or lack thereof for Hadi, but lack of trust.

The same would apply for Aisli & Asylum equally. I wouldn't say we dislike them, just our trust was breached, and time will have to mend all wounds.

This is why he received such low ratings.


Also, I agree that those who are not familiar with our previous Monarchy, don't know what it was like then.

In the early days at least for me, it was great, though my behaviour was quite horrendous. :P

It was towards the end of your regime, things fell apart, with Europeia & inactivity on your part, then of course some EOs were very questionable. Overall it was not bad.

But, I am not here supporting you or disapproving, to set the record, just my POV of it from the past.
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Mekhet
May 22 2011, 07:13 PM
In the early days at least for me, it was great, though my behaviour was quite horrendous. :P

It was towards the end of your regime, things fell apart, with Europeia & inactivity on your part, then of course some EOs were very questionable. Overall it was not bad.
Yeah since when did you become mature? :P Just kidding.

Also, I liked some of those EO's.... banning Gov was the best EO by far. Simply epic.
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Falconias
May 22 2011, 07:23 PM
Mekhet
May 22 2011, 07:13 PM
In the early days at least for me, it was great, though my behaviour was quite horrendous. :P

It was towards the end of your regime, things fell apart, with Europeia & inactivity on your part, then of course some EOs were very questionable. Overall it was not bad.
Yeah since when did you become mature? :P Just kidding.

Also, I liked some of those EO's.... banning Gov was the best EO by far. Simply epic.
After Your, Axiom, & Lords shenanigans, when I left Axiom and joined Lords and then became enlightened.


Ironically, I became less douchebaggery because of that douchebag KevinWasserman. ^_^
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lol, that's ironic. I hope KW takes that lightly :P
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M'aeq
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He will take pride in it. I know him well enough now.

We always talk on skype & play Left 4 Dead 2 on Xbox Live. (I always screw him over :P )

Actually we used to hate each other completely, before I had about joined Lords.
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KW is a love hate kinda guy, and you just live with it. :P
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M'aeq
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True dat.
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caotic chaos
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Falconias
May 22 2011, 06:06 PM
Knistii
May 22 2011, 04:40 AM
I think that actually, that looks like a standard bell curve graph for population activity, I think if we could look further, or compare it to other regional activity we would see that a constant rise and fall is pretty normal, and has nothing to do with the governing body.

I believe also that this clearly reflects the amount of free time people have, look at the dates here - regional activity is higher when people are on holiday in RL. Regional activity was also much higher before the GFC took hold. Nowadays people are working harder and for longer and often have less time in front of a computer.

I think that you haven't at all covered all of the possible variables that might cause this and simply attributing it to 'The Democracy Fad' is a way to justify taking complete power back.

I'm not being a troll, the idea that Democracy doesn't work and that having a single 'guiding voice' is better sounds a lot like Mussolini's political ideology to me.

"Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy." - Benito Mussolini

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty." - Benito Mussolini

"Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election." - Adolf Hitler


Democracy is not a Fad, Democracy works and by denying that fact you put yourself in league with the Fascists sir.

Then how do you explain that the forum activity constantly rises until the exact moment I step down? Then for what looks like a few days it goes insane because everyone is buzzing about the new government, and then it goes on a steady fall. It coincides almost exactly with when I stepped down. This is why I decided to come back because I have faith in my own ability to push this region to success. Democracy as it were did not succeed in the region; but it cannot be truly called a democracy. It was more of a republic. And it failed miserably and ended up in power struggles, miserable members, departures and arguments. The only ones who appear, at this point in time, to be against a single person in control of Equinox (as a theory itself, forget for a moment that it is me as founder), are the ones who were not active in the original "Monarchy era" of Equinox.

Have faith.

Also, Hadi and Hadi's attackers, keep the personal assaults to a minimum.

I'm a little surprised the region doesn't have more faith in Hadi, at the communications position of all things. The only thing he does is write the bloody EMT which nobody else was apparently arsed to do, so cut him some slack on that one. I don't blame the region necessarily however for roasting yumyum on Chief Ambassador. I applaud his effort but I didn't think he was ready for the position either, although I did vote for him under the condition I would support him through the term.

Results to be posted shortly, as well as Mekhet's election for Recruiting Officer.
you may be the founder, but that does not mean you are the sole leader of the region. this region is not "yours" simply because you founded it. it is everyones, and everyone else who wishes to join. a region is a group of people who want to do something, and they do it together. I am a part of GC, and i have now also become a part of equinox. our regions are not that different, we both like to have fun, and we both spam like hell. :P :burn: monarchy did not work in gc, and it apparently did not work well in equinoxes past either. So maby we should think of another idea.
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M'aeq
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caotic chaos
May 22 2011, 08:28 PM
Falconias
May 22 2011, 06:06 PM
Knistii
May 22 2011, 04:40 AM
I think that actually, that looks like a standard bell curve graph for population activity, I think if we could look further, or compare it to other regional activity we would see that a constant rise and fall is pretty normal, and has nothing to do with the governing body.

I believe also that this clearly reflects the amount of free time people have, look at the dates here - regional activity is higher when people are on holiday in RL. Regional activity was also much higher before the GFC took hold. Nowadays people are working harder and for longer and often have less time in front of a computer.

I think that you haven't at all covered all of the possible variables that might cause this and simply attributing it to 'The Democracy Fad' is a way to justify taking complete power back.

I'm not being a troll, the idea that Democracy doesn't work and that having a single 'guiding voice' is better sounds a lot like Mussolini's political ideology to me.

"Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy." - Benito Mussolini

"The truth is that men are tired of liberty." - Benito Mussolini

"Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election." - Adolf Hitler


Democracy is not a Fad, Democracy works and by denying that fact you put yourself in league with the Fascists sir.

Then how do you explain that the forum activity constantly rises until the exact moment I step down? Then for what looks like a few days it goes insane because everyone is buzzing about the new government, and then it goes on a steady fall. It coincides almost exactly with when I stepped down. This is why I decided to come back because I have faith in my own ability to push this region to success. Democracy as it were did not succeed in the region; but it cannot be truly called a democracy. It was more of a republic. And it failed miserably and ended up in power struggles, miserable members, departures and arguments. The only ones who appear, at this point in time, to be against a single person in control of Equinox (as a theory itself, forget for a moment that it is me as founder), are the ones who were not active in the original "Monarchy era" of Equinox.

Have faith.

Also, Hadi and Hadi's attackers, keep the personal assaults to a minimum.

I'm a little surprised the region doesn't have more faith in Hadi, at the communications position of all things. The only thing he does is write the bloody EMT which nobody else was apparently arsed to do, so cut him some slack on that one. I don't blame the region necessarily however for roasting yumyum on Chief Ambassador. I applaud his effort but I didn't think he was ready for the position either, although I did vote for him under the condition I would support him through the term.

Results to be posted shortly, as well as Mekhet's election for Recruiting Officer.
you may be the founder, but that does not mean you are the sole leader of the region. this region is not "yours" simply because you founded it. it is everyones, and everyone else who wishes to join. a region is a group of people who want to do something, and they do it together. I am a part of GC, and i have now also become a part of equinox. our regions are not that different, we both like to have fun, and we both spam like hell. :P :burn: monarchy did not work in gc, and it apparently did not work well in equinoxes past either. So maby we should think of another idea.
Calm down cc. :gov:
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I thougt I was CC! xP

I hope this is the right place for me to post this, but...

Everyone needs to calm down, I think all this discussion has gotten quite out of control and some people have begun using personnal attacks, and that's not good at all. Imagine someone new to new NS, just to Equinox or even someone that has been here for a long time but does not like what is happening at all, and I'm not talking about the coups and what not, I'm talking about arguments, etc ;so, if someone sees all these arguments, it's going to keep them away and send out a bad and wrong idea of what Equinox is about. Everyone should go catch some fresh air for a minute and think about what theyr're going to say next because you can send out your opinion without damaging equinox and frightening other people.

I just wanted to state my opinion, and as much confusing it may be I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say.
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Thus, why he's lowercase cc. :P

There's also Chin-Chillas, but he's the original CC, so I guess we can call him C-C?
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caotic chaos
May 22 2011, 08:28 PM
you may be the founder, but that does not mean you are the sole leader of the region. this region is not "yours" simply because you founded it. it is everyones, and everyone else who wishes to join. a region is a group of people who want to do something, and they do it together. I am a part of GC, and i have now also become a part of equinox. our regions are not that different, we both like to have fun, and we both spam like hell. :P :burn: monarchy did not work in gc, and it apparently did not work well in equinoxes past either. So maby we should think of another idea.
I never said it was "my" region but I am founder... and when I need to act I do as such. GC and us are pretty different (I've also taken part in both places... wasn't in GC as Falconias though :P )

The monarchy DID work in Equinox's past. I didn't resign because it didn't work, I resigned because I wanted the region to be democratic.
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