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Aequitas-Veritas
Jun 8 2011, 11:23 PM
Well it is when it is true and its admitted by the individual. Hadi has admitted that he conspired with Ayslum, Ashli, Janka, Drac, and whom ever else to overthrow the previous government. Its a matter of record that they all agree to.

Then it is unnecessary to continue saying so. It's not conducive to a respectful, productive environment for advancement.
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Aequitas-Veritas
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...and shepherds we shall be...

So identifying a pattern that is not condusive to moving forward is not condusive....
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Karputsk
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AV, I understand where you are coming from but you are completely blowing the recent, null changes out of proportion. You are acting as if Hadisthe was solely interested in moulding the system to suit his own wants. You keep on ignoring the fact that Falc, was and is arguably still inactive, which isn't very helpful when we are very reliant on him at the moment. Hadisthe like I said was just trying to prevent there being a lack of progress while Falc is on hiatus. He did it because he wanted to help Equinox, and more importantly allow those who are active to help Equinox. I'm sure Falc's inactivity will be temporary and when he returns properly I won't have any qualms with him taking the helm again. But, needlessly pointing out Hadisthe prior involvement in coups is not concrete enough to brand this a coup and as far as I'm concerned it's a massive over reaction. Not only that but we are all very well aware about how the situation came about so needlessly reminding us about it is helping. So please, stop reiterating what has happened, and how it happened so that we can put this issue to rest and get on with it.
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Aequitas-Veritas
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...and shepherds we shall be...

I think your missing the point I am making, he could have easily done that without assuming the mantle of the guy in charge and taking upon himself to change the Equinox Code. Run the next election, great! randomly create a position Falc specifically disapproved..not so much.

As to null and void, so is his first 2-3 coups too but that doesnt mean they didnt happen.
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In what way? The only way to get anywhere would of been to either appoint himself dictator, which he didn't want or to redistribute power, which had previously been consolidated into Falc's position, to active members. Running an election of little significance would not have hit the nail on the head, we needed a serious rethink if we were to actually allow for some form of development in Falc's absence. You are acting like Falc's word is law, which I accept when he is active but otherwise it is not in anyway beneficial.

As for the coups, I didn't say forget them. I said that there is no use in constantly reminding us because we are all ready aware of them and Hadisthe's involvement. I think based on previous posts that some feel like you are just trying to tar Hadisthe's name by constantly emphasising it. I'm not saying that we should reject entirely his involvement but it does seem like you are trying to make it more of an issue than some of us feel it is.
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...and shepherds we shall be...

What I am really getting at is that we need to temper what we hope Hadi is doing is for the general good with the fact that he has done and admitted to some down right sneaky and dirty things.

Now speaking to what we really need in Falc's absence is for the duly elected officers of the region to get proactive about thier jobs. Take for instance Culture...Janka hasnt even posted all month. Still no EMT (partially falc to blame). and I have seen much for recruiting... Having an executive to lord over the executives really isnt going to change thier work. Years of previous adminstrations have proven that.
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Jun 8 2011, 11:06 PM
So a temp. fix to the temp fix. His temp fix was literally to throw up what Falc planned and do what he had previously stated and it was shot down.

This is the 3rd time Hadi has been part of a Coup in EQ. The first time was using his Emergency powers to disolve the government and put forth his constitution, which he only a few short months later conspired to overthrow his own constitution with another one of his constitutions (the Monarch thing), then when that didnt go his way he contacted Falc, who in turn over threw that constitution. Now Falc put in place his Equinox Code and at the literal first chance to do so, he takes it upon himself to change that too.

anyone see see a pattern here?
Throw up his plan? You mean the one where we will never have a "leader"?
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...and shepherds we shall be...

Show proof where a leader is required? We have proof in this very region that even having a strong leader doesnt equal activity, progress, or anything else save another position to fill?
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"Poor bastard. Wait 'till he sees the bats. "

except for Nord?

and being a true conspiracy theorist, I only wish I had been around the last few months. Sounds like fun

Area 51!
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Aequitas-Veritas
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...and shepherds we shall be...

Nord really did most of the work himself, something he could have done in any of the current positions.
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"Poor bastard. Wait 'till he sees the bats. "

ah but he gets the credit for everything done (or correspondingly all the blame). Tis the way of the world

does all this mean I have to shut down my campaign? I was busy hiring people to dig up dirt on Mek - actually I was turning away volunteers B)
Edited by whigdom, Jun 9 2011, 02:56 AM.
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Aequitas-Veritas
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...and shepherds we shall be...

You can always do that, I doubt anyone but Mel would mind.
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Jahka
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Lurker's opinion.

You just need to do something tangible to make the region more fun. Arguing about something that isn't even a problem anymore is about as stupid as one could imagine. A true rockbottom moment.

Here is my expectation...


No one else posts in this thread. You go to the think tank and post tangible ideas. Then, recruit.

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Knistii
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Or you could go do something with the Culture Centre... just an idea.
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whigdom
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"Poor bastard. Wait 'till he sees the bats. "

hey jahka - how you doing?
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