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Austin (Aries) Starr suspended...AGAIN; Oi
Topic Started: Apr 19 2007, 11:33 PM (126 Views)
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Austin Starr was sent home from television on Monday and (at this point) is slated for a 90 day suspension. The reason bouncing around this afternoon among those in the company was that management was unhappy with his attitude. I was told there was no one incident that caused the decision but just a series of events. The feeling among some wrestlers that were sympathetic to Starr was that he's a pretty blunt and brutally honest person, which probably hurt him politically in the locker room. One certainly can't discount his work as he had one of the best matches on the entire Lockdown PPV against Senshi. Starr had been given something of a suspension last year after he and Roderick Strong remained and worked a Ring of Honor show during a blizzard scare after being instructed to leave New York and head to Florida. They made the show but their push as a tag team was shelved and Strong opted not to sign a new deal with the company. Starr re-debuted with the Starr moniker at Bound for Glory last October. Starr was scheduled to continue his storyline with Bob Backlund after Lockdown. Backlund was at TNA's Impact taping Monday but wasn't used. He'll be remaining with the company.


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Yes, yes, because we wouldn't want people beyond "yes sirs" in the locker room that won't tell you when they see bullshit. It is a shame honestly, since Aries/Starr is one of the few things that makes me remotely tempted to tune into TNA from time to time (along side Joe, Shelley and Raven more or less). Guess that's the way the cookie crumbles, least he always has RoH to fall back on. Where they don't try to make him dress like Jesse "the Body" Ventura Jr.
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An update and more detailed reason as to why he was suspended...

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Austin Starr not only ruffled feathers at the fanfest by sporting a Ring of Honor t-shirt, but he also refused to cut promos on his day off. These actions apparently led to his 90 day suspension by TNA.


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That's pretty shitty of TNA if it is true to suspend over him wearing a t-shirt (even if it is a RoH one, who they are supposed to have a friendly business relationship with), and him not wanting to come in on his day off. I said it when WWE made their new "backstage clothing code" and I'll say it here, it is stupid to try and boss around some one as to what and how they should wear their clothes. The latter thing, eh, I wouldn't want to drive from Minnesota (where Aries/Starr lives) to Florida either on my day off.

First they pull Joe from RoH for him jokingly saying that he "tripped over some bad booking" about his injury and job him to Tomko as punishment, now this. At this point TNA seems to have their heads further up their own asses than even WWE does amazingly.
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It's ridicolous, Austin Aries is one of the best X Divisioners they have, they need to be careful or there going to lose alot of talent.
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Oh for god sakes it's a business not a lovefest, if you work at KFC you don't walk in dressed like a McDonalds employee do you? No not even if you happen to work at both. So wearing an RoH shirt at a TNA event when you are there as a TNA representitive is just stupid so punishment for that makes sense. I don't care if TNA and RoH are meant to be friendly now, the fact is they are competition and advertising doesn't make business sense.

Now do I agree suspending him for the 90 days is a fitting punishment for that one mistake? No but if the guy has rubbed the wrong people the wrong way on more then one occasion it makes perfect sense to send him away.

Though the day off thing, yeah screw that, they want him to cut promos make time to film them when he's working.
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So, by your logic RoH should/could suspend some one for, say, wearing a NOAH Pro-Wrestling or Dragon Gate T-shirt? Since, even though they are on friendly terms and have shared workers (like TNA and RoH have), that is the same thing.

To use your comparison, by how their relationship is, it'd be more like working at a KFC down south and coming in wearing a KFC on the east coast's uniform and getting suspended for it.
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Friendly doesn't mean you are willing to give them free publicity... and no RoH couldn't do that for one simple reason, they don't sign their workers to contracts do they? No seriously I don't keep up with RoH so I wouldn't know but at last check they didn't, though they could stop booking them or deminish their push.

I never said I agreed with the punishment of 90 days for a shirt, but pissing people of over an extended peroid of time? 90 days sounds fine, give Austin a message that he needs to change his act a bit and it give people he has managed to annoy time to cool off.

And no, it's nothing like that since they are the SAME company while TNA and RoH aren't.
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To be fair I think TNA are just getting scared, they're already doing horrible and knowing fans will see BETTER stuff at RoH, it scared them. Stupid thing is, Aries is the head trainer at RoH, so can you blame him for wearing a RoH top? No, but we'll see where it leads, because this rate RoH talent will just back away from TNA all together.
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Stupid thing is, Aries is the head trainer at RoH, so can you blame him for wearing a RoH top?

Um did you miss what I said? Yes, I can blame him for wearing the shirt, if he wants to promote RoH let him do it on his own time, not while he's at a TNA event as a TNA wrestler.
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Friendly doesn't mean you are willing to give them free publicity... and no RoH couldn't do that for one simple reason, they don't sign their workers to contracts do they? No seriously I don't keep up with RoH so I wouldn't know but at last check they didn't, though they could stop booking them or deminish their push.

I never said I agreed with the punishment of 90 days for a shirt, but pissing people of over an extended peroid of time? 90 days sounds fine, give Austin a message that he needs to change his act a bit and it give people he has managed to annoy time to cool off.

And no, it's nothing like that since they are the SAME company while TNA and RoH aren't.


Eh, I guess I can grudgingly accept that and last time I checked RoH had most of it's workers under a contract. Though it is legally some where between what most indies do (just booking people) and TNA/WWE. More or less a agreement for base pay and both parties must notify the other if some thing comes up (no spot on the card for them this show, worker gets injuried, worker gets signed to WWE, ect).

My biggest complaint is I could understand if Aries wore the shirt on their TV show in front of the few thousand that watch it, but this wasn't televised. So only a few hundred people saw him sporting the shirt (and by the sounds of it by a few who went to it and have mentioned so online, most of the people there asked him to sign their stuff as Aries not Starr. There for, I'm willing to bet most of them knew what RoH was to begin with.)
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It's probably not all about the shirt, he's likely annoyed people with other stuff as well and that's just once example of it.

As for it not being in front of many people, that shouldn't matter, he was there on company time not his. And if the fans knew who he was and wanted to sign as Aries the shirt was pointless, he may as well have been standing their topless, which wouldn't matter I assume since from clips I've seen Aries like so many other's wrestles in glorified hot pants and not much else (knee & elbow pads and boots)
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Actually, it wasn't on company time, TNA made it known to all the wrestlers in their locker room about the fan meet & greet. And said it was optional for them to show up and to only if they wanted to, since they wouldn't be getting paid for it. That is partly what annoys me about the situation, it wasn't on company time, he wasn't getting paid for it, Aries just went there to help out and sign some stuff for the fans like a few others did.
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I just think it's pointless personally, Aries is a nice guy and he doesn't deserve the shit TNA gives him, so he speaks his mind, fair play to him.
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Okay so he wasn't getting paid, that weakens my stance but the man should have still had enough sense to realise wearing an RoH shirt at a TNA event when he is there as a TNA personality (even if unpaid for his time there) wasn't going to sit well with several company people.

As for him being a nice guy that speaks his mind, it's not fair play, I'm actually a bit of a prick that speaks his mind and you don't see me getting suspended for TNA do you? No, you know why? Because I'm not a wrestler and I don't work for them that's why.

However if he is one to just blatantly speak his mind, his problem is the blatant part, he needs to learn something called tact, it will keep him out of trouble.
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Quite honestly, justified or not isn't the case here. If he's under contract, TNA can suspend him for looking at Jjeff Jjaarrett funny. They can fire him because it's Tuesday. They don't NEED justification.

That fact aside, was it dumb of Austin to wear his RoH shirt at a TNA event? Not really. If management had previously had a non-stance on the issue I could understand him going "eh, they're friends" and wandering in to work. I mean, if you want to make a mundane comparison it's like I showed up to pick up my check at work (though while work related is not a paid experience). Everyone in the restaraunt knows I work there. I'm getting a piece of paper from the office that implies such. The Golden Corral I work at is owned by Frisch's, which also owns the Big Boy chain of restaraunts.. So Austin walking into a non-profit day at TNA wearing an RoH shirt is comparable to me walking in on a non-profit day wearing a Big Boy shirt. The companies are friends.

Saying TNA and RoH are rivals is kind of ridiculous anyhow, in any fashion. TNA and WWE? Yes. TNA and whatever the fuck MTV's wrestling show is called? Sure. They're televised feds with the same demographic. RoH is more along the lines of rivals with PWG or another fed that does the majority of its business through ticket sales and DVDs.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying TNA is on par with WWE. For all it's faults, WWE puts on a million times better program that's more fluid and makes more sense from week to week than TNA. TNA is the higgledy piggledy nonsense of WCW on acid. And hey, that works for it. They have wrestlers the fans like, I guarandamntee you that's the reason people tune into TNA. I don't recall anyone ever saying "I really love this storyline" or "so and so cuts such great promos I have to catch them on TNA this week". Nope. It's just 'cuz they wanna see a specific dude beat up another dude. And even THAT lasts for less than your standard WWE match... and is somehow more choreographed.

I'm rambling. My point was made. I'm going to go get food now.
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While I agree that the treatment Aries got was harsh, I'm still pondering the Joe situation. What was meant by his statement, "I tripped over some bad booking"? I understand that TNA pulled him from ROH, and did give ROH an advance notice about it before hand so that they could plan out his farewell.
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Okay, during the Angle/Joe feud there was a segment where Kurt fucked up and injuried Joe (if I'm remembering correctly, his leg, possibly his knee). Joe popped up at one of the RoH shows he was scheduled to be at, and since he couldn't wrestle, he cut a promo. Jokingly during the promo he said "Sorry folks, I seem to have tripped over some bad booking". A month or so later TNA brass finally caught wind of the comment and took it as a insult, "punishing him" (by pulling him from RoH and jobbing him to Tomko, and supposedly, not giving him the title as was originally planned two PPVs back when he faced Christian).
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Ah, okay. That makes more sense then.
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And when he was wearing that shirt, didn't he look faaaat?
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That fact aside, was it dumb of Austin to wear his RoH shirt at a TNA event? Not really. If management had previously had a non-stance on the issue I could understand him going "eh, they're friends" and wandering in to work. I mean, if you want to make a mundane comparison it's like I showed up to pick up my check at work (though while work related is not a paid experience). Everyone in the restaraunt knows I work there. I'm getting a piece of paper from the office that implies such. The Golden Corral I work at is owned by Frisch's, which also owns the Big Boy chain of restaraunts.. So Austin walking into a non-profit day at TNA wearing an RoH shirt is comparable to me walking in on a non-profit day wearing a Big Boy shirt. The companies are friends.

Saying TNA and RoH are rivals is kind of ridiculous anyhow, in any fashion. TNA and WWE? Yes. TNA and whatever the fuck MTV's wrestling show is called? Sure. They're televised feds with the same demographic. RoH is more along the lines of rivals with PWG or another fed that does the majority of its business through ticket sales and DVDs.

I doubt people go to the resturant to get served by you, unless they are family or friends, while I'm sure some people to TNA to see Austin (and probably others). They go to the resturant for the food, now if the chef started burning other resturant logos onto the food or creating them in the sauce he'd probably get in trouble.

As for rivals, I never said they were rivals, I said they were competition. Microsoft has plenty of competition when it comes to operating systems but it has no real rivals as far as market share goes. Still you don't see staff at a Microsoft convention wearing Steve Jobs' turtle necks do you? Well okay maybe some where turtle necks but none of them would have the Apple logo on them. I also doubt you'd find anyone of the staff rocking up in a Linux shirt.
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